Keeneland September Yearling sale 2023

[mariasmon]

Now this one, idk is the horse standing weird or is his one back leg so crooked that you can see his entire heel???

this one sold for $180k...? sure it's not a LOT, but still wild. his leg does look extremely off in the ring.

In my experience, it is VERY common for horses to cock their right hind foot out like that when standing for a conformation-type photo.

[brunanas]

Now this one, idk is the horse standing weird or is his one back leg so crooked that you can see his entire heel???

this one sold for $180k...? sure it's not a LOT, but still wild. his leg does look extremely off in the ring.

In my experience, it is VERY common for horses to cock their right hind foot out like that when standing for a conformation-type photo.

i thought it could be the way she stood but she walks quite crookedly.

[brunanas]

given this guy is a ½ brother to MGSW Soldat and by a good sire in Bernardini (and from his last crop), i'd have to think might not have vetted the best as he hammered at $15,000. not the prettiest yearling at the sale, but...?

[starrydreamer]

How they sold in bold.

It really goes to show you can't tell much from one picture.

Here are some horses from Saturday's session that I think look nice:

Hip 1137 - c. Tapit x Yawkey Way 550,000
Hip 1140 - f. Mitole x You Make Me Sing - from female family of You 95,000
Hip 1161 - c. American Pharoah x Ancient Secret OUT
Hip 1164 - f. Flameaway x Appreciating 375,000
Hip 1181 - c. Liam's Map x Bernadetta - I think he's super cute. 150,000
Hip 1186 - f. Twirling Candy x Bixby Lou 180,000
Hip 1200 - c. Bernardini x Cat Dancer RNA (45,000)
Hip 1205 - c. Bernardini x Cheery - okay, not his biggest fan physically and I'm assuming that's how Elate's half brother ended up this far back in the catalogue? 35,000
Hip 1206 - c. Vino Rosso x Cherub 325,000
Hip 1222 - f. Improbable x Dear Elaine 80,000
Hip 1241 - c. Blame x Eve Harrington - his feet are hidden but he's another super cute one. 130,000
Hip 1260 - f. More Than Ready x Fujairah 95,000
Hip 1282 - f. Nyquist x Home Schooling 200,000
Hip 1287 - f. Mitole x House of Fortune 130,000
Hip 1316 - c. Honor AP x Lady Mamba 275,000
Hip 1328 - f. Tiz the Law x Lerici - not her biggest fan physically, but she is half sister to Avenge and Liguria. private sale - 25,000
Hip 1336 - f. City of Light x Little Hidden Gem 140,000
Hip 1351 - c. Nyquist x Malibu Model 310,000
Hip 1356 - c. Volatile x Martini 200,000
Hip 1367 - c. Candy Ride x My Julia Star (FR) - he looks almost brindle grey. Also he looks like a warmblood. 110,000
Hip 1394 - c. Candy Ride x Ocean Goddess 100,000
Hip 1399 - c. Not This Time x Pearl River 100,000
Hip 1411 - c. Volatile x Pooh Corner 250,000
Hip 1412 - f. Tapit x Pretty At War - she has a spot on her back that didn't turn grey like the rest of her. OUT
Hip 1424 - c. War of Will x Ready Signal - he looks like War Front. 100,000
Hip 1444 - c. Sky Mesa x Salute - half to Mr Speaker, Fire Away, Vigilante's Way. Surprised to see a Phipps family this far into the catalogue. 100,000
Hip 1463 - f. Authentic x Singita RNA (60,000)
Hip 1488 - f. Caravaggio x Stayclassysandiego 225,000
Hip 1491 - f. Violence x Street Show - she's got a really cool sock on her right front! RNA (35,000)
Hip 1495 - f. Tapit x Successful Outlook - full to Anchor Down and Iron Fist, but more importantly, it looks like her left front leg is forgetting to turn grey like the rest of her. 350,000

I'll be following Hip 1495 to see if she does indeed have a bloody shoulder. Hopefully she stays stateside.

[Miss Woodford]

Re: Hip 1444, I'm kind of surprised the catalog makes no note of his 1/2 brother Snap Decision's 3 G1 wins and has him in lowercase letters. Do hurdle graded stakes not count as black type? Also $100k seems low for a horse with 4 graded-stakes winning siblings whose granddam is Personal Ensign. He didn't look bad in the ring.

[starrydreamer]

Session 8 (tomorrow's) horses that I like...

Hip 2382 - c. Complexity x Warrior Kat - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2382/?630
Hip 2407 - f. Improbable x Arienza - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2407/?348 - I'm a little surprised to see a granddaughter of Azeri this far back in the sale.
Hip 2414 - c. Honor AP x Averyblake - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2414/?552
Hip 2437 - c. Mendelssohn x Cash Register - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2437/?444 - provided the rest of him caught up to that hind end.
Hip 2464 - c. Street Sense x Comedia - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2464/?542
Hip 2471 - f. Kantharos x Cowboytakemeaway - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2471/?233 - this one is def a quarter horse.
Hip 2473 - f. Global Campaign x Crack of Dawn - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2473/?102
Hip 2499 - f. War of Will x East India - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2499/?723
Hip 2504 - f. Practical Joke x Empire Lady - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2504/?619
Hip 2526 - f. Violence x Getting Warmer - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2526/?272 - the stockings on her back leg are very flashy.
Hip 2550 - c. Improbable x Her Majesty's Flag - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2550/?946
Hip 2589 - c. Violence x Lady Alida - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2589/?442
Hip 2595 - c. Liam's Map x Lemarchos - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2595/?739
Hip 2615 - f. The Factor x Mecanique - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2615/?614 - the picture was taken with the camera pointing upward but man, she's got a big engine.
Hip 2650 - c. Union Rags x October Bride - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2650/?738
Hip 2671 - c. Oscar Performance x Princely Sum - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2671/?400
Hip 2677 - f. Ghostzapper x Profiterole - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2677/?602
Hip 2687 - f. Liam's Map x Raison d'Etre - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2687/?471
Hip 2697 - f. Upstart x Rollick - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2697/?994
Hip 2702 - f. War of Will x Ruffenuff - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2702/?523
Hip 2706 - c. Munnings x Sansibar Jewel - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2706/?488 - they snuck a pony into the sale.
Hip 2707 - f. Frosted x Santa Teresa - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2707/?604
Hip 2732 - f. Hard Spun x Southern Honey - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2732/?810
Hip 2750 - c. Union Rags x Sweet Revenge - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2750/?735
Hip 2762 - f. Audible x The Now Crowd - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2762/?301
Hip 2770 - c. Game Winner x Totem Power - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2770/?828
Hip 2774 - c. Complexity x Try to Catch Her - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2774/?980

[brunanas]

this one has to have vetted pretty horribly, no? i mean, not the greatest pastern conformation (a bit short & steep) but $55k for a filly o/o a ½ to Shedaresthedevil?

[Flanders]

Re: Hip 1444, I'm kind of surprised the catalog makes no note of his 1/2 brother Snap Decision's 3 G1 wins and has him in lowercase letters. Do hurdle graded stakes not count as black type? Also $100k seems low for a horse with 4 graded-stakes winning siblings whose granddam is Personal Ensign. He didn't look bad in the ring.

I noticed that myself when looking through the catalog. They do not count as blacktype. They are in italic to note that though.

I'm copying this from the IFHA, who decides catalog standards, and separates countries into Parts I, II, and III and then Part IV is:
PART IV
Part IV, on yellow paper, is the Jump Race Supplement, which lists steeplechase and hurdle races contested in countries comprising Parts I, II and III of this publication. These races are listed in italic form in sales catalogues and regional preferences determine if the italic form is black type.

HURDLE OR JUMP RACES
Hurdle and jump races were included in Parts I, II and III of the “International Cataloguing Standards” book and qualified for black type status dependent upon their placement until January 1, 1986. Beginning with this date,
these races were placed in Part IV of the publication and lost their black type status for catalogues produced using North American ICSC guidelines. Horses which won or placed in a hurdle or jump race since January 1, 1986 are now identified by their names carried in italic mixed case.

[Flanders]

this one has to have vetted pretty horribly, no? i mean, not the greatest pastern conformation (a bit short & steep) but $55k for a filly o/o a ½ to Shedaresthedevil?

I would assume she has some issue to sell for that price. But it might not be that major, it might just be something that scares buyers off and others are willing to take a chance. Zenyatta only sold for 60k cause she had some skin disease when she went through as a yearling.

[Missbeholder]

this one has to have vetted pretty horribly, no? i mean, not the greatest pastern conformation (a bit short & steep) but $55k for a filly o/o a ½ to Shedaresthedevil?

I would assume she has some issue to sell for that price. But it might not be that major, it might just be something that scares buyers off and others are willing to take a chance. Zenyatta only sold for 60k cause she had some skin disease when she went through as a yearling.

The Zenyatta sale in 2005 was really a perfect storm, timing wise, for Jerry, Ann, and David. Zenyatta was first-crop Street Cry so nobody really knew what he might become and that sale was before Street Sense burst on the scene the following year.. Her half-sister Balance was only a 2yo that year and hadn't yet become a GI winner. Their dam, Vertigineux, was not an accomplished race horse, and until Balance, hadn't produced anything of note.

Add to that her unreal size as a yearling filly, which I think tends to turn buyers off a little bit when looking for fillies, and the stupid, treatable skin rash.

When all is said and done, I really don't think it was that much of a surprise that they got her for only $60K!

[Diver52]

this one has to have vetted pretty horribly, no? i mean, not the greatest pastern conformation (a bit short & steep) but $55k for a filly o/o a ½ to Shedaresthedevil?

I would assume she has some issue to sell for that price. But it might not be that major, it might just be something that scares buyers off and others are willing to take a chance. Zenyatta only sold for 60k cause she had some skin disease when she went through as a yearling.

The Zenyatta sale in 2005 was really a perfect storm, timing wise, for Jerry, Ann, and David. Zenyatta was first-crop Street Cry so nobody really knew what he might become and that sale was before Street Sense burst on the scene the following year.. Her half-sister Balance was only a 2yo that year and hadn't yet become a GI winner. Their dam, Vertigineux, was not an accomplished race horse, and until Balance, hadn't produced anything of note.

Add to that her unreal size as a yearling filly, which I think tends to turn buyers off a little bit when looking for fillies, and the stupid, treatable skin rash.

When all is said and done, I really don't think it was that much of a surprise that they got her for only $60K!

David Ingordo said on a recent interview that when the hammer fell, he had the horrible feeling that he'd bought the wrong horse as he expected her to go for around $200k. Interview when he was visiting Z and uh, Nymue.

[Mylute]

Buyers get turned off by scars from superficial skin injuries. It could really be anything.

[starrydreamer]

Session 8 (tomorrow's) horses that I like...

Hip 2382 - c. Complexity x Warrior Kat - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2382/?630 120,000
Hip 2407 - f. Improbable x Arienza - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2407/?348 - I'm a little surprised to see a granddaughter of Azeri this far back in the sale. RNA (40,000)
Hip 2414 - c. Honor AP x Averyblake - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2414/?552 52,000
Hip 2437 - c. Mendelssohn x Cash Register - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2437/?444 - provided the rest of him caught up to that hind end. 5,000
Hip 2464 - c. Street Sense x Comedia - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2464/?542 PS - 27,000
Hip 2471 - f. Kantharos x Cowboytakemeaway - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2471/?233 - this one is def a quarter horse. 42,000
Hip 2473 - f. Global Campaign x Crack of Dawn - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2473/?102 RNA (25,000)
Hip 2499 - f. War of Will x East India - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2499/?723 155,000
Hip 2504 - f. Practical Joke x Empire Lady - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2504/?619 190,000
Hip 2526 - f. Violence x Getting Warmer - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2526/?272 - the stockings on her back leg are very flashy. 27,000
Hip 2550 - c. Improbable x Her Majesty's Flag - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2550/?946 50,000
Hip 2589 - c. Violence x Lady Alida - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2589/?442 170,000
Hip 2595 - c. Liam's Map x Lemarchos - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2595/?739 60,000
Hip 2615 - f. The Factor x Mecanique - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2615/?614 - the picture was taken with the camera pointing upward but man, she's got a big engine. 50,000
Hip 2650 - c. Union Rags x October Bride - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2650/?738 25,000
Hip 2671 - c. Oscar Performance x Princely Sum - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2671/?400 RNA (45,000)
Hip 2677 - f. Ghostzapper x Profiterole - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2677/?602 55,000
Hip 2687 - f. Liam's Map x Raison d'Etre - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2687/?471 30,000
Hip 2697 - f. Upstart x Rollick - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2697/?994 40,000
Hip 2702 - f. War of Will x Ruffenuff - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2702/?523 160,000
Hip 2706 - c. Munnings x Sansibar Jewel - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2706/?488 - they snuck a pony into the sale. 95,000
Hip 2707 - f. Frosted x Santa Teresa - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2707/?604 85,000
Hip 2732 - f. Hard Spun x Southern Honey - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2732/?810 47,000
Hip 2750 - c. Union Rags x Sweet Revenge - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2750/?735 27,000
Hip 2762 - f. Audible x The Now Crowd - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2762/?301 30,000
Hip 2770 - c. Game Winner x Totem Power - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2770/?828 15,000
Hip 2774 - c. Complexity x Try to Catch Her - https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/2774/?980 110,000

$5,000 for the Mendelssohn colt seems... low. He must have vetted poorly.

[starrydreamer]

Session 9 horses I like...

Hip 2793 - c. Kantharos x Warrior Hall - his female family traces back to Courtly Dee.
Hip 2795 - f. Higher Power x What What What
Hip 2801 - c. Union Rags x Wizardry
Hip 2822 - f. Liam's Map x August Snow
Hip 2826 - f. Liam's Map x Bareeqa
Hip 2828 - c. Caravaggio x Becky's Best - he's half to Becky's Joker, who won the Schuylerville this year, and he's a looker. Also he's listed as grey but I'm not sure he's greying out?
Hip 2829 - c. Honor AP x Beersheeba - that is definitely a gulastra plume.
Hip 2856 - f. Improbable x Caribbean Babe
Hip 2885 - c. Nyquist x Cut in Stone
Hip 2896 - c. Daredevil x Delightful
Hip 2899 - f. Honor AP x Diastole - maybe the least flashy Honor AP I've seen.
Hip 2906 - c. Malibu Moon x Dude Fantasy
Hip 2919 - c. McKinzie x Enamored - FLASHY dude.
Hip 2925 - f. Ghostzapper x Everything - female family of Arcangelo.
Hip 2930 - c. McKinzie x Fashion Island - family of Rhyme Schemes, who won the Saratoga Special this year.
Hip 2939 - c. Runhappy x Forever Beautiful
Hip 2948 - c. Kitten's Joy x Glittering Tax - no photo or video for him but I'm a little surprised to see Miss Temple City's half brother. He really must be backwards.
Hip 2974 - c. Caravaggio x Irish Teardrop (GB) - he has a nice turf pedigree.
Hip 2985 - c. Higher Power x JP's Flashy Honey - pedigree is meh but I think he's nice looking.
Hip 3025 - c. Malibu Moon x Midtown Traffic
Hip 3057 - f. War Front x Odeliz (IRE) - don't usually see War Fronts this far into the sale.
Hip 3061 - f. Echo Town x Overboard - not really the greatest pedigree but she's nice looking.
Hip 3112 - c. Union Rags x Senada
Hip 3114 - c. Uncle Mo x Sequin - because Uncle Mo is having a very good sale.
Hip 3132 - f. Thousand Words x Starluna
Hip 3138 - c. Twirling Candy x Storm Showers
Hip 3147 - c. War of Will x Stunning Lady
Hip 3148 - f. Constitution x Succeeding - another from the Teeming female family.
Hip 3164 - f. McKinzie x Tapped
Hip 3186 - c. Caravaggio x Truly Mine - it's possible I just want this one to be my pony.
Hip 3196 - f. Catholic Boy x Unfold the Rose - no photo/video, but she's half to Stephanie's Kitten. Unfold the Rose hasn't really produced much besides her and Heywoods Beach, so I guess that's why she's so far back in the sale.

[Mylute]

Why hello yes I will take the McKinzie/Enamored baby.

[Justahorse]

Why hello yes I will take the McKinzie/Enamored baby.

Agreed

[brunanas]

#2866 (Get Stormy — Charming She Is) had gotten to $2,000 but all bidders removed their bids so she left the ring at $0. there are no conformation shots of her and her page is pretty plain, but she didn't look... bad? i wonder what put buyers off of her so much.

same with this Honor Code, also got to $2,000 and then back to $0. page also empty, you can see through the 4th dam, but he also doesn't look horrible? not the most beautiful horse in the sale, but dang. must suck for the breeder.

[Mylute]

If I was a buyer/breeder I would jump on any Get Stormys and Kitten's Joys.

[Slewfan2]

#2866 (Get Stormy — Charming She Is) had gotten to $2,000 but all bidders removed their bids so she left the ring at $0. there are no conformation shots of her and her page is pretty plain, but she didn't look... bad? i wonder what put buyers off of her so much.

same with this Honor Code, also got to $2,000 and then back to $0. page also empty, you can see through the 4th dam, but he also doesn't look horrible? not the most beautiful horse in the sale, but dang. must suck for the breeder.

How sad that this poor baby didn’t get any bids…but HC is a disaster

On a positive note, Honor A.P. has had 3 6 figure yearlings, along with some ok prices. Considering his sire and frankly unimpressive book, I’m very happy.

I hope they name the filly out of Joyeria that sold today for $65,000 - Alexandrite

[Miss Woodford]

a few good horses in tomorrow:
https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/3211 Frosted X Whisked Away legs might be iffy but a very handsome well-balanced colt
https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/3261 Bernardini x Bella Dorato 1/2 sister to Trinniberg
https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/3279 Vino Rosso x Canary Diamond I'm a sucker for a roman nose
https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/3288 Vino Rosso x Chalonitka very nice-looking filly
https://catalog.keeneland.com/catalog/hip/3397 Volatile x Iteration, 1/2 to Charming Kitten and 2 other graded stakes horses