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Somnambulist

Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:06 pm

BlindLucky wrote:
Horsebagger wrote:Creator wasn't any good, so why would anybody complain about not being able to breed to him? Or otherwise care?
A previous post mentioned this already, but I think the only people who cared/complained are the "OMG we send all our good horses to Japan, they need to stay here where they belong, where they're safe, and have pretty babies, because Japan is mean!" crowd.
Racing really has the dumbest fans out of any sport. Put in animal in it and people immediately revert to hysterics.
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:47 pm

Racing really has the dumbest fans out of any sport.

I guess you've never read some of the MMA forums out there. :lol:
Somnambulist

Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:49 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Racing really has the dumbest fans out of any sport.

I guess you've never read some of the MMA forums out there. :lol:
No, but my boyfriend is a Jets fan and so are all of his friends. Not even they're that dumb.

Animals really bring out the best and worst in people.
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:18 pm

BlindLucky wrote:
Horsebagger wrote:Creator wasn't any good, so why would anybody complain about not being able to breed to him? Or otherwise care?
A previous post mentioned this already, but I think the only people who cared/complained are the "OMG we send all our good horses to Japan, they need to stay here where they belong, where they're safe, and have pretty babies, because Japan is mean!" crowd.

If you took a shot of bourbon every time you read "greedy owners" in those sort of complaints, you'd have alcohol poisoning pretty quick :roll:
I think you'd be dead in less than 30 minutes, as long as you add in Ferdinand and Exceller comments.
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:09 pm

Kind of surprised WinStar sold a stallion before they gave it a few years in Kentucky themselves. Though, like others have said, I was never really taken with the horse.

He'll definitely get some good numbers in his first 2/3 years in Japan, then numbers for the imports, especially the non-Shadai ones, tend to slump if they haven't hit it big by then. Regardless, he will be well taken care of, despite what the loons in the comments have to say :lol:
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:43 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:Considering how good Dubawi is proving to be, Japan has really scored by acquiring Makfi, IMO.
I agree 100% with you!!!
Makfi himself is a proven sire, too.
And I'm 120% sure that Japanese breeders will be enthusiastic about this new import. ;)
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Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:52 pm

Northport wrote:He'll definitely get some good numbers in his first 2/3 years in Japan, then numbers for the imports, especially the non-Shadai ones, tend to slump if they haven't hit it big by then.
Creator will be less popular than Makfi in his debut at stud in Japan.
But I think that he will get good interests from Japanese breeders as a rare son of the great Tapit in Japan.
So let's hope his early offsrping will do well.
And, as always, JBBA is a wonderful place for any stallions standing there. ;)
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 12:44 am

tachyon wrote:
Northport wrote:He'll definitely get some good numbers in his first 2/3 years in Japan, then numbers for the imports, especially the non-Shadai ones, tend to slump if they haven't hit it big by then.
Creator will be less popular than Makfi in his debut at stud in Japan.
But I think that he will get good interests from Japanese breeders as a rare son of the great Tapit in Japan.
So let's hope his early offsrping will do well.
And, as always, JBBA is a wonderful place for any stallions standing there. ;)
I have to wonder if perhaps they bought him to bring in some more dirt lines to maybe try for the Kentucky Derby point races that were set up in Japan. Especially since Lani showed that Tapit/Sunday Silence is a worthwhile cross to try.
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:24 am

I felt that the Japanese may have taken steps toward stocking those point races at the recent Keeneland yearling sale, because it seemed like there were more colts with dirt pedigrees being bought by Japanese buyers than filly broodmare prospects.
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 1:41 am

Flanders wrote:
tachyon wrote:
Northport wrote:He'll definitely get some good numbers in his first 2/3 years in Japan, then numbers for the imports, especially the non-Shadai ones, tend to slump if they haven't hit it big by then.
Creator will be less popular than Makfi in his debut at stud in Japan.
But I think that he will get good interests from Japanese breeders as a rare son of the great Tapit in Japan.
So let's hope his early offsrping will do well.
And, as always, JBBA is a wonderful place for any stallions standing there. ;)
I have to wonder if perhaps they bought him to bring in some more dirt lines to maybe try for the Kentucky Derby point races that were set up in Japan. Especially since Lani showed that Tapit/Sunday Silence is a worthwhile cross to try.
I think you are right.
We saw a Street Sense colt winning in his debut two weeks ago at Hanshin 1400m dirt Newcomer.
Immediately after the race, his trainer mentioned the Kentucky Derby for his goal.
It was obvious that Lani's adventure in this year's TC and the new Kentucky Derby point races in Japan were in that trainer's mind.

That Street Sense colt was :

Caucus(JPN) 2014C. Street Sense(USA) x Talk Show(GB) by Diktat(GB)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001188297/
owner: Sheikh Mo
breeder: Darley Japan
trainer: Hideaki Fujiwara

replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXtcssoXkVE
Caucus: #2 horse
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:44 am

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I felt that the Japanese may have taken steps toward stocking those point races at the recent Keeneland yearling sale, because it seemed like there were more colts with dirt pedigrees being bought by Japanese buyers than filly broodmare prospects.
That makes sense for the meantime. It also makes sense to buy dirt stallions to try and produce their own for the years down the road.
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:49 am

tachyon wrote:
Flanders wrote: I have to wonder if perhaps they bought him to bring in some more dirt lines to maybe try for the Kentucky Derby point races that were set up in Japan. Especially since Lani showed that Tapit/Sunday Silence is a worthwhile cross to try.
I think you are right.
We saw a Street Sense colt winning in his debut two weeks ago at Hanshin 1400m dirt Newcomer.
Immediately after the race, his trainer mentioned the Kentucky Derby for his goal.
It was obvious that Lani's adventure in this year's TC and the new Kentucky Derby point races in Japan were in that trainer's mind.

That Street Sense colt was :

Caucus(JPN) 2014C. Street Sense(USA) x Talk Show(GB) by Diktat(GB)
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001188297/
owner: Sheikh Mo
breeder: Darley Japan
trainer: Hideaki Fujiwara

replay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXtcssoXkVE
Caucus: #2 horse
He looked impressive. His pedigree is really nice. I hope he continues to do well.
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:05 am

Awwwww..

Battle Plan(USA)[2005H. Empire Maker(USA) x Flanders(USA)] has just sired his first graded winner in Japan, when his 2yo colt Bless Journey(JPN)[o/o Elfin Park(JPN) by Tanino Gimlet(JPN)] won in the G3 Saudi Arabia Royal Cup 1600m turf at Tokyo on Oct 9th 2016!!! :D :D

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etDOlI2WTmA
Bless Journey: #6 horse
http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001188560/

Also I've just realized that JRA renewed its English homepage.
http://japanracing.jp/en/
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:42 pm

Gemologist is looking good! His daughter Yellow Agate just became his first Stakes/Graded Stakes/G1 winner, improving her record to 2 for 2.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/ ... n-frizette
A filly named Ruffian...

Eine Stute namens Danedream...

Une pouliche se nommant Trêve...

Kincsem nevű kanca...


And a Queen named Beholder
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Sat Oct 08, 2016 8:56 pm

-- 100th stakes winner for Fastnet Rock(AUS)

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... stnet-rock
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Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:34 pm

In not-so-surprising news, Exaggerator has been retired.
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Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:38 pm

Mel Mae wrote:In not-so-surprising news, Exaggerator has been retired.
aaaalllllllllll of my nope.
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Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:24 pm

Logic says - he wasn't going to finish in the top 5 in the Classic *unless* it monsooned.
He's not a very big, strong-looking horse, and I don't picture him improving with age. Like Nyquist I think all of his big races are behind him.
Makes sense. He should be around $25,000.
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Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:52 pm

Nyquist is done too after the Classic, according to Jay Privman.
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Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:40 pm

Claire Novak‏@BH_CNovak
Top CA sire Unusual Heat has been pensioned at age 26 per release. More soon @BloodHorse

Forgot to add the press release: http://www.unusualheat.com/heatnews.html
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