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Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:56 pm
by TapitsGal
tachyon wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:46 pmWhich link?
Jeannetta Myers 株式会社 ジェイエス&アロースタッド

@JS_CompanyJP

カリフォルニアクロームは、彼の作品に多くの幸福をもたらした後、2年間の契約でオーストラリアでスタリオンの義務を果たします。フォローする詳細情報 California Chrome will perform stallion duty in Australia in a two year deal after much happiness with his production pieces. More info to follow

This was sent to my FB messenger. Have not been able to find original posting, but apparently it is true.
CALIFORNIA CHROME will be shared in Australia for stud duties. He will have opportunities with excellent mares and good pedigrees to sire successful racehorses, His Legacy.
Wishing CHROME the best.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:59 pm
by tachyon
TapitsGal wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:56 pm
tachyon wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:46 pmWhich link?
Jeannetta Myers 株式会社 ジェイエス&アロースタッド

@JS_CompanyJP

カリフォルニアクロームは、彼の作品に多くの幸福をもたらした後、2年間の契約でオーストラリアでスタリオンの義務を果たします。フォローする詳細情報 California Chrome will perform stallion duty in Australia in a two year deal after much happiness with his production pieces. More info to follow

This was sent to my FB messenger. Have not been able to find original posting, but apparently it is true.
CALIFORNIA CHROME will be shared in Australia for stud duties. He will have opportunities with excellent mares and good pedigrees to sire successful racehorses, His Legacy.
Wishing CHROME the best.
Thank you!
That's great news!!

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:42 pm
by Northport
Any news which farm he will shuttle to? Arrowfield stands the most Japanese stallions, but they dea exclusively with Shadai.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:40 pm
by tachyon
Northport wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:42 pm Any news which farm he will shuttle to? Arrowfield stands the most Japanese stallions, but they dea exclusively with Shadai.
I was wondering the same thing, Northport.
I have not yet seen anything mentioned about California Chrome's shuttling to Australia in Japanese sources, anyway.

In the recent years, few Japan-based stallions shuttled to Australia.
In 2019, only Shadai sent Maurice(JPN), Mikki Isle(JPN), Real Steel(JPN) and Satono Aladdin(JPN) to Australia in an alliance with Arrowfield.
But, until the outbreak of the equine influenza both in Japan and Australia in 2007, there used to be many more Japan-based stallions shuttling to Australia and New Zealand and they were not limited to Shadai Stallions.
In 2006, for example, Black Hawk(GB), Black Tuxedo(JPN), Desert King(IRE), Falbrav(IRE), Grandera(IRE), Grass Wonder(USA), Jungle Pocket(JPN), Stravinsky(USA), Tayasu Tsuyoshi(JPN), Timber Country(USA) and Zenno Rob Roy(JPN) visited Australia & New Zealand.

If Arrow Stud (JS Company) sends California Chrome to Australia, this could be seen as sort of a return to normal, too.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:27 pm
by tachyon
Filly: Rose Carina(JPN)(1/2 to Rosebud) by Harbinger(GB) (4/10)
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at Okada Bokujo (Farm)

Her dam is from the Rosa Nay family. 8-)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001148779/pedigree/

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:42 pm
by RugbyGirl
Arrowfield have just announced their 2021 fees so it is definitely not them. I've been searching for this but whoever it is is keeping it very quiet right now....

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:05 pm
by Mylute
I am surprised this is happening.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:29 pm
by Northport
I don't follow Australian bloodstock very closely, but I wonder if a farm like Aquis would stand him? They have a large roster of mostly inexpensive stallions.

Besides Arrowfield, Darley, Coolmore, and Vinery (kind of), not a lot of the larger stud farms stand shuttle stallions.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:44 pm
by RugbyGirl
Northport wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:29 pm I don't follow Australian bloodstock very closely, but I wonder if a farm like Aquis would stand him? They have a large roster of mostly inexpensive stallions.

Besides Arrowfield, Darley, Coolmore, and Vinery (kind of), not a lot of the larger stud farms stand shuttle stallions.
There are plenty of big (& small) stud farms that stand shuttle sires. Valachi in NZ comes to mind, a very small boutique stud that last year stood 2 shuttle sires from Coolmore.

Just took a quick look at fee announcements Vinery, Widden, Darley, Aquis, Arrowfield, Newhaven, Rosemont, & Newgate have all made 2021 announcements. I could probably sit down and work out which major ones haven't but my brain is fried right now :D

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:55 pm
by tachyon
It looks like California Chrome stamps his foals. :D

colt(JPN) - California Chrome(USA) x Yamakatsu Marilyn(JPN) by Grass Wonder(USA) (4/29)

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at Okada Bokujo

https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000807289/

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:14 pm
by CorridorZ75
It does seem that he is getting more chestnuts with a lot of flash in Japan compared to US, but that could just be the pics we are getting or that he has more chestnut mares at his court there.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:12 am
by Ridan_Remembered
CorridorZ75 wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:14 pm It does seem that he is getting more chestnuts with a lot of flash in Japan compared to US, but that could just be the pics we are getting or that he has more chestnut mares at his court there.
Actually, Chrome sired a lot of chestnuts with white markings in the U.S. and Chile, too. No sire stamps 100% of his foals. Genetics doesn't work that way, but it is interesting how many of Chrome's foals resemble him no matter the dam's color.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:00 pm
by Slinky_Malinky
TapitsGal wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:50 pm JS company reports on facebook that chrome will spend the next two years shuttling to Australia for the southern hemisphere season
I cannot think of any value he brings to the Australian mare pool that justifies the expense of shuttling him there.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:26 pm
by Northport
Slinky_Malinky wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:00 pm
TapitsGal wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:50 pm JS company reports on facebook that chrome will spend the next two years shuttling to Australia for the southern hemisphere season
I cannot think of any value he brings to the Australian mare pool that justifies the expense of shuttling him there.
I imagine he’ll have the same results as similar unfashionably bred Derby winners who shuttled down under, Animal Kingdom and Big Brown. Without the allure of being TC winners or the support of mega duel Hemisphere farms, I just don’t see why Aussie breeders would have any interest in middle distance horse who did their best work on dirt. Especially Chrome, since he already has a crop racing and not setting the world on fire (yet).

Not a slight at any of the above mentioned horses, but unless they set Chrome’s fee at $10,000 and let any and all mares into his book, I don’t see how he’ll cover more than 60 or 70 mares.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:54 pm
by tachyon
Ridan_Remembered wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:12 am
CorridorZ75 wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:14 pm It does seem that he is getting more chestnuts with a lot of flash in Japan compared to US, but that could just be the pics we are getting or that he has more chestnut mares at his court there.
Actually, Chrome sired a lot of chestnuts with white markings in the U.S. and Chile, too. No sire stamps 100% of his foals. Genetics doesn't work that way, but it is interesting how many of Chrome's foals resemble him no matter the dam's color.
I've seen at least 27 California Chrome's Japanese babies so far, 16 of whom are chestnuts.
More interestingly, most of his foals, chestnut or bay, have white markings. ;)

And here's another one:

-- colt(JPN) - California Chrome(USA) x Letempsdescerises(JPN) by Sakura Bakushin O(JPN) (4/26)
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at Shimada Bokujo

https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001103637/

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:03 pm
by Ridan_Remembered
Tachyon, thanks for posting that photo. The foal is beautiful.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:09 pm
by tachyon
You are welcome!
And here's another baby born yesterday.
They say she was a breech baby.
Fortunately both the mare and the filly were okay.

filly(JPN) - California Chrome(USA) x Stage Trick(USA)(black-type winner in the US) by Distorted Humor(USA)
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at Sato Farm

https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001112368/

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:16 pm
by CorridorZ75
La La Primevere did apparently foal a colt according to Polo Green's twitter.

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:31 pm
by tachyon
CorridorZ75 wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:16 pm La La Primevere did apparently foal a colt according to Polo Green's twitter.
Yes!

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at Hidaka Farm
@HIDAKA_FARM

https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001202280/

Re: California Chrome to Japan

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 10:00 pm
by tachyon
Here's another chestnut with a large white! :D

cot(JPN) - California Chrome(JPN) x Spring Festa(JPN)(1/2 to two-time JRA champion Curren Chan) by Zenno Rob Roy(JPN)

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at Umeda Bokujo (Farm)

https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001090325/