Matings 2018

Starine · Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:54 pm

Avenge --> Frankel

Kelly Kip · Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:07 pm

Glen Hill Farm

2018 Broodmare Band and Matings
Audubon Park-Classic Empire
Biorhythm-Bodemeister
Broken Dreams-Curlin
Closeout-Speightstown
Customer Base-Kitten's Joy
Educating-Kitten's Joy
Emerald Gold-Uncle Mo
Emphatically-American Pharoah
Family Meeting-Kitten's Joy
Global Gold-Quality Road
Grat-Maclean's Music
Hassler-Frosted
Hoosier Girl-Distorted Humor
How-Medaglia D'Oro
Indy Groove-American Pharoah
Key Component-Distorted Humor
Last Resort-Bayern
Little Miss S.-Maclean's Music
Marketing Mix-Quality Road
Mutually Benefit-Curlin
Photographer-Pioneerof the Nile
Promotional-Nyquist
Sly Storm-Arrogate
Summer Dress-Summer Front
Theatre Star-Pioneerof the Nile
Tocco-Practical Joke
Voiced-Kitten's Joy

Izvestia · Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:06 pm

I cannot wait to see a Quality Road-Marketing Mix foal!!!

Izvestia · Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:40 pm

Canadian HOY Caren to Curlin

Izvestia · Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:41 pm

Songbird to Arrogate

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/so ... Y.facebook

serenassong · Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:05 pm

Izvestia wrote:Songbird to Arrogate

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/so ... Y.facebook

You could have knocked me over with a feather. Not that Arrogate isnt a good horse- but to mate a maiden mare to an unproven sire is risky . It's her money, but he hasnt even covered a booked mare yet- Im assuming that he has perhaps had some test breedings so far?

Watch the foal grow up into a champion

I was really thinking AP, then Arrogate possibly

If your a Forty Niner fan, you will like the cross
http://www.truenicks.com/free-reports/h ... e=Songbird

serenassong · Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:11 pm

Izvestia wrote:I cannot wait to see a Quality Road-Marketing Mix foal!!!

That one jumped off the screen at me- great minds think alike

Treve · Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:47 pm

I'm stunned about Songbird going to Arrogate.
With Pope's love of Tapit, the fact he's a proven sire (and to boot truenicks gave them a good grade) I was nearly certain she'd have gone to him. Possiiiiibly American Pharoah. I suppose Arrogate would've been my third guess though.

Sparrow Castle · Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:25 pm

I'm surprised about Songbird going to Arrogate too. I hope he has plenty of practice first and can handle a maiden mare. A bit unusual I think.

KimmieB · Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:46 pm

Treve wrote:I'm stunned about Songbird going to Arrogate.
With Pope's love of Tapit, the fact he's a proven sire (and to boot truenicks gave them a good grade) I was nearly certain she'd have gone to him. Possiiiiibly American Pharoah. I suppose Arrogate would've been my third guess though.

It says in the Bloodhorse article (at the bottom), that she will be going to Tapit in 2019.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... te-in-2018

edit: grammar and spelling.

sweettalk · Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:03 am

nicks a C w arrogate, A or better with tapit, tiznow, into mischief, to honor and serve, and shackleford. oh well, her mare. zenyatta was a C (i think) before she was zenyatta, so i guess anything can happen.

Sparrow Castle · Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:16 am

Dickinson -> Curlin

Ballerina · Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:50 pm

sweettalk wrote:nicks a C w arrogate, A or better with tapit, tiznow, into mischief, to honor and serve, and shackleford. oh well, her mare. zenyatta was a C (i think) before she was zenyatta, so i guess anything can happen.

Well, yeah, breeding more oft then not is a crap shoot, but True Nicks is a good tool. I would have thought either Tapit or Bernardini both A++ - Bernardini being a similar style to Songbird.

Treve · Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:45 pm

Ballerina wrote:
sweettalk wrote:nicks a C w arrogate, A or better with tapit, tiznow, into mischief, to honor and serve, and shackleford. oh well, her mare. zenyatta was a C (i think) before she was zenyatta, so i guess anything can happen.
Well, yeah, breeding more oft then not is a crap shoot, but True Nicks is a good tool. I would have thought either Tapit or Bernardini both A++ - Bernardini being a similar style to Songbird.

Bernadini would've been the same cross as Rachel's Valentina who turned out to be a G1 winner.

mariasmon · Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:50 pm

Sparrow Castle wrote:Dickinson -> Curlin

Yuck

Sparrow Castle · Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:32 pm

mariasmon wrote:
Sparrow Castle wrote:Dickinson -> Curlin
Yuck

Yeah, I didn't think it was a very exciting match, not getting many graded stakes winners.

Sparrow Castle · Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:48 pm

Hill 'n' Dale Farms‏ @HillnDaleFarm
Bubbler dam of Champion Arrogate will be visiting Curlin in 2018!

BaroqueAgain1 · Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:27 pm

I'd be interested in knowing their thinking here. Isn't there a son of UBS out there good enough for her?
Maybe the problem is that UBS hasn't actually sired any really good stallions?

mariasmon · Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:46 pm

BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I'd be interested in knowing their thinking here. Isn't there a son of UBS out there good enough for her?
Maybe the problem is that UBS hasn't actually sired any really good stallions?

That worries me, but I'd still try Arrogate on a mare proven with UBS, like Lemons Forever. I wouldn't mind seeing Bubbler go to something else from the Unbridled line (Empire Maker, POTN, Pharoah...take your pick).

Treve · Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:56 pm

mariasmon wrote:
BaroqueAgain1 wrote:I'd be interested in knowing their thinking here. Isn't there a son of UBS out there good enough for her?
Maybe the problem is that UBS hasn't actually sired any really good stallions?
That worries me, but I'd still try Arrogate on a mare proven with UBS, like Lemons Forever. I wouldn't mind seeing Bubbler go to something else from the Unbridled line (Empire Maker, POTN, Pharoah...take your pick).

After reading the article I feel they should've gone with their first gut pick for Songbird, Pioneerof the Nile. Even Empire Maker would have been an interesting (and proven) choice, I really don't think Arrogate is even a great match for her physically and conformationally they do not complement each other or compensate each other's flaws.