2014 KEE SEP Yearling Sale Catalog

[mariasmon]

Hip #284 has something going for it as it has blacktype top and bottom.
However #39 is a hard sell due to no dollars or blacktype in 1st dam.
A lot depends on why the breeder is selling.
Perhaps the breeder is cutting back and the dam of #39 will be sold in the KEE NOV Breeding stock sale.

Um...don't most of the yearlings have blacktype on top? Most stallions in the major TB breeding states have blacktype or they wouldn't have gone to stud.

[Hail To Reason]

I'm referring to both the sire and dam who won or placed in stakes or producing and siring black type progeny.
Re hip #39, the mare in the 1st generation has none plus no earnings and not a good buy.
There are other yearlings in the sale who have more desirable pedigrees on the dam's side
There is also such a thing as cheap black type in a pedigree and that doesn't add much value to a horse.

[mariasmon]

I'm referring to both the sire and dam who won or placed in stakes or producing and siring black type progeny.
Re hip #39, the mare in the 1st generation has none plus no earnings and not a good buy.
There are other yearlings in the sale who have more desirable pedigrees on the dam's side
There is also such a thing as cheap black type in a pedigree and that doesn't add much value to a horse.

Right, but people will still pay for quality specimens by stallions with no horses of racing, so I'm not sure what the big deal is there. An unraced dam also does not deter buyers, especially if the horse they are buying is among her first few foals (which is true of #39) and there's blacktype under the 2nd dam (also true of #39). I guess I don't see your point at all. #39 is by Majesticperfection, who has his first 2YOs this year, and she is the 2nd foal of her dam. People are going to care a lot more about what she looks like, IMO.

[Hail To Reason]

These are not my selections, they were posted Le Beau Bay.
I was just making a comment on the selections.
My two choices were Hip #73 and Hip #1820 and for different reasons.

[Hail To Reason]

Le Beau Bay had a realistic outlook and I was just reinforcing encouragement for one and lower expectations for the other.
If you are a consignor you hope there are small stable trainers at the sale who are just looking for a nice athletic horse at a reasonable price.
They are not looking for stakes horses, just have a horse that can run through their conditions and hopefully pay a dividend.
Sometimes there is something favorably known by those close to the horse that isn't on the pedigree, like having an unraced dam for a good reason.
There are others who would like to have stakes quality horses and scrutinize pedigrees carefully and pay more for the added value in the pedigree.
Then there is the very rich who want to collect particular yearlings from specific sire lines or female families.
When the hammer falls and the yearling leaves the ring it still has an owner and you hope a successful career whether in stakes or claiming races.
I always advised my clients to have their trainer look at their prospective purchase before they buy.

[swale1984]

I have a long list of yearlings from this sale.

The one I'm most anxious to see though is hip 747, a Galileo colt out of Justenuffheart. This is a colt that's a 1/2 to Dreaming of Anna and Lewis Michael, and from the family of Kitten's Joy and Precious Kitten. Great turf pedigree.

Also, a few MDO yearlings caught my eye, which is strange, because I normally don't care for his offspring, but it's hard to overlook two colts that might finally put him on the map as more than a filly sire:

Hip 244: Medaglia D’Oro x She’s a Winner by AP Indy- This colt is a ½ to Bluegrass Cat. I prefer Medaglia d’Oro’s daughters, but if any mare can give him a good son, it’s this daughter of AP Indy, who is a sister to Girolamo and Daydreaming. That’s a great family with a LOT of black type.

Hip 273: Medaglia D’Oro x Speed Succeeds by Gone West- Another colt that could give Medaglia d’Oro a leg up in male runners! Speed Succeeds has produced G1 winner Brilliant Speed and black type runner Souper Speedy. She is a half sister to the great race mare Serenading, and the second dam is a full sister to Belmont winner Touch Gold and a half sister to noted sire With Approval.


There are also 2 Street Cry yearlings I like:

Hip 389: Street Cry x Where's Bailey by Aljibr- How could you not be intrigued by a filly out of a 1/2 sister to Zenyatta? (Wouldn't that make this filly a 3/4 sister to Zen? I always get confused on that).

Hip 575- Street Cry x Delta Princess- Half brother to Royal Delta. Don't think I need to say any more.

[BaroqueAgain1]

Since we just lost Delta Princess, that makes this Street Cry colt even more precious.

[Flanders]

325 - f. by War Front - Take Charge Lady - Unless she has a glaring conformational fault, she will be the highest priced filly at the sale. My guess is no less than $2 million.

[swale1984]

.

325 - f. by War Front - Take Charge Lady - Unless she has a glaring conformational fault, she will be the highest priced filly at the sale. My guess is no less than $2 million.

Yeah. I won't be surprised if Mr. Horton goes after this filly too, since he just bought the sales topper at F-T which was a War Front filly out of a daughter of Take Charge lady

[Flanders]

.

325 - f. by War Front - Take Charge Lady - Unless she has a glaring conformational fault, she will be the highest priced filly at the sale. My guess is no less than $2 million.

Yeah. I won't be surprised if Mr. Horton goes after this filly too, since he just bought the sales topper at F-T which was a War Front filly out of a daughter of Take Charge lady

I think Coolmore and possibly Mandy Pope would be interested as well, maybe the new Besilu/Three Chimneys partnership too. Pope bought her half-sister at last year's sale for $2.2 million.

[TBird]

I have a long list of yearlings from this sale.

The one I'm most anxious to see though is hip 747, a Galileo colt out of Justenuffheart. This is a colt that's a 1/2 to Dreaming of Anna and Lewis Michael, and from the family of Kitten's Joy and Precious Kitten. Great turf pedigree.

Also, a few MDO yearlings caught my eye, which is strange, because I normally don't care for his offspring, but it's hard to overlook two colts that might finally put him on the map as more than a filly sire:

Hip 244: Medaglia D’Oro x She’s a Winner by AP Indy- This colt is a ½ to Bluegrass Cat. I prefer Medaglia d’Oro’s daughters, but if any mare can give him a good son, it’s this daughter of AP Indy, who is a sister to Girolamo and Daydreaming. That’s a great family with a LOT of black type.

Hip 273: Medaglia D’Oro x Speed Succeeds by Gone West- Another colt that could give Medaglia d’Oro a leg up in male runners! Speed Succeeds has produced G1 winner Brilliant Speed and black type runner Souper Speedy. She is a half sister to the great race mare Serenading, and the second dam is a full sister to Belmont winner Touch Gold and a half sister to noted sire With Approval.


There are also 2 Street Cry yearlings I like:

Hip 389: Street Cry x Where's Bailey by Aljibr- How could you not be intrigued by a filly out of a 1/2 sister to Zenyatta? (Wouldn't that make this filly a 3/4 sister to Zen? I always get confused on that).

Hip 575- Street Cry x Delta Princess- Half brother to Royal Delta. Don't think I need to say any more.

I think Medaglia D'Oro is already on the map. It's hard to envision him as only a filly sire when he has sired such G1 winning colts as Warrior's Reward, Violence and Lochte and other G1 performing colts, Micromanage and Al Khali.

[swale1984]

I think Medaglia D'Oro is already on the map. It's hard to envision him as only a filly sire when he has sired such G1 winning colts as Warrior's Reward, Violence and Lochte and other G1 performing colts, Micromanage and Al Khali.

I'm looking at earnings; his fillies generate more earnings in fewer starts:
Rachel Alexandra- 19 starts 3.5 million
Marketing Mix 21 starts 2 million
Plum Pretty 12 starts 1.6 million


of the colts you mentioned, only Al Khali has earned more than a million and it took him at least 2x as many starts to get that.

[halo]

Really? How much do you suppose Warriors Reward is generating now?

[TBird]

I think Medaglia D'Oro is already on the map. It's hard to envision him as only a filly sire when he has sired such G1 winning colts as Warrior's Reward, Violence and Lochte and other G1 performing colts, Micromanage and Al Khali.

I'm looking at earnings; his fillies generate more earnings in fewer starts:
Rachel Alexandra- 19 starts 3.5 million
Marketing Mix 21 starts 2 million
Plum Pretty 12 starts 1.6 million


of the colts you mentioned, only Al Khali has earned more than a million and it took him at least 2x as many starts to get that.

Money earned is one measure of success. It's not the one breeders use however. I'm surprised you find the idea of fewer starts appealing. Nevertheless, by any manner of measurement, Medaglia D'Oro would not be classified as "only" a filly sire.

[Twingo]

.

325 - f. by War Front - Take Charge Lady - Unless she has a glaring conformational fault, she will be the highest priced filly at the sale. My guess is no less than $2 million.

Yeah. I won't be surprised if Mr. Horton goes after this filly too, since he just bought the sales topper at F-T which was a War Front filly out of a daughter of Take Charge lady

I think Coolmore and possibly Mandy Pope would be interested as well, maybe the new Besilu/Three Chimneys partnership too. Pope bought her half-sister at last year's sale for $2.2 million.

Coolmore buys only War Front colts

They sold War Front filly out of Charming ($1.25 million) at Fasig-Tipton.

[mariasmon]

Coolmore buys only War Front colts

They sold War Front filly out of Charming ($1.25 million) at Fasig-Tipton.

Also, I believe they are the owners of (or partners in) the Take Charge Lady filly. Eaton is always the listed breeder of TCL's foals, but she resides at one of Coolmore's KY properties and I am reasonably certain they own her or part of her. They have so many names and partnerships, it's hard to keep track of all of them.

I am not entirely certain they own Charming outright, either. She was purchased as a yearling by Todd Pletcher for James Scatuorchio and her brief racing career was in his colors. Coolmore has been in partnerships with Scatuorchio before (see: Scat Daddy, among others), so I'm guessing they own Charming with him, unless they bought her from him after she retired from racing.

[Flanders]

Coolmore buys only War Front colts

They sold War Front filly out of Charming ($1.25 million) at Fasig-Tipton.

Also, I believe they are the owners of (or partners in) the Take Charge Lady filly. Eaton is always the listed breeder of TCL's foals, but she resides at one of Coolmore's KY properties and I am reasonably certain they own her or part of her. They have so many names and partnerships, it's hard to keep track of all of them.

I am not entirely certain they own Charming outright, either. She was purchased as a yearling by Todd Pletcher for James Scatuorchio and her brief racing career was in his colors. Coolmore has been in partnerships with Scatuorchio before (see: Scat Daddy, among others), so I'm guessing they own Charming with him, unless they bought her from him after she retired from racing.

Charming raced for Scatuorchio and Tabor. I don't know who owns her now though. Her foals have been bred by Charming Syndicate.

That is interesting about Take Charge Lady's ownership. She was listed as being owned by Eaton Sales when she won the Broodmare of the Year title. Since they are just a consignor it is possible that they just board her at one of the Coolmore's properties. However, Coolmore could very well own part of her. I also agree it is very hard to know all of Coolmore's partnership names.

I never realized that Coolmore only bought War Front colts.

I still think she tops among the fillies.

[Twingo]

Coolmore always uses this word "Syndicate" for Coolmore-bred horses

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_ ... horse_form
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_ ... horse_form
.
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_ ... horse_form
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_ ... horse_form

[mariasmon]

Coolmore buys only War Front colts

They sold War Front filly out of Charming ($1.25 million) at Fasig-Tipton.

Also, I believe they are the owners of (or partners in) the Take Charge Lady filly. Eaton is always the listed breeder of TCL's foals, but she resides at one of Coolmore's KY properties and I am reasonably certain they own her or part of her. They have so many names and partnerships, it's hard to keep track of all of them.

I am not entirely certain they own Charming outright, either. She was purchased as a yearling by Todd Pletcher for James Scatuorchio and her brief racing career was in his colors. Coolmore has been in partnerships with Scatuorchio before (see: Scat Daddy, among others), so I'm guessing they own Charming with him, unless they bought her from him after she retired from racing.

Charming raced for Scatuorchio and Tabor. I don't know who owns her now though. Her foals have been bred by Charming Syndicate.

That is interesting about Take Charge Lady's ownership. She was listed as being owned by Eaton Sales when she won the Broodmare of the Year title. Since they are just a consignor it is possible that they just board her at one of the Coolmore's properties. However, Coolmore could very well own part of her. I also agree it is very hard to know all of Coolmore's partnership names.

I never realized that Coolmore only bought War Front colts.

I still think she tops among the fillies.

Hmm. It looks like Tabor bought in after Charming's maiden win at Keeneland (where she ran solely in Scatuorchio's name). By her next race, she was in both names. She ran into Music Note in her second start and finished 2nd to her by 7 lengths

[mariasmon]

Coolmore always uses this word "Syndicate" for Coolmore-bred horses

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_ ... horse_form
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_ ... horse_form
.
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_ ... horse_form
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_ ... horse_form

Not always. They also have pseudonyms, the most common of which are Orpendale, Chelston and Wynatt (for the 3 major partners). But there are others.