Does anyone have info on winners of Switzerland's Triple Crown series from 2020 to present?
Swiss 2000 Guineas
2021 -- was it run? if so, who won?
Swiss Derby
2022 -- was it run? if so, who won?
2024 (probably not run yet this year)
Swiss 1000 Guineas
2020 In The Field(IRE) - this cannot be right, as In The Field is a colt; who is the correct winner?
2021 -- winner?
2022 -- winner?
2023 -- winner?
2024 -- winner?
Swiss Oaks
2020 -- winner?
2021 -- winner?
2022 -- winner?
2023 -- winner?
2024 -- winner?
~Miesque
Swiss Triple Crown
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Miesque1973
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MorganLeFay
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It looks like there was no 2000 Guineas in 2020 and 2021.
What's a bit confusing in Switzerland is that over several years there was a 2000 Guineas at the racecourse Dielsdorf and also a Poule d'Essai at Avenches, but in 2021 neither was run.
Swiss Derby
2022: Winner Hello Hola Hay (Zarak - Hawwa), Trainer Lubos Urbanek
2024: Winner Nachthimmel (Fascinating Rock - Nordkappe), Trainer Christian von der Recke
The last 1000 Guineas and Oaks were in 2019 and haven't been run since due to lack of horses.
Let me know if you need any other Swiss results
What's a bit confusing in Switzerland is that over several years there was a 2000 Guineas at the racecourse Dielsdorf and also a Poule d'Essai at Avenches, but in 2021 neither was run.
Swiss Derby
2022: Winner Hello Hola Hay (Zarak - Hawwa), Trainer Lubos Urbanek
2024: Winner Nachthimmel (Fascinating Rock - Nordkappe), Trainer Christian von der Recke
The last 1000 Guineas and Oaks were in 2019 and haven't been run since due to lack of horses.
Let me know if you need any other Swiss results
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Flanders
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https://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php ... witzerland
The short answer, everything on PQ appears to be right from what I've found. The winners and no races run. Except 2020 - 1000/2000 Guineas, see below, because I still have no clue, though I do have a theory.
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So I found the Swiss racing Youtube channel, they switch between German and French depending on which track the race was run at. The races also move tracks so the race names changes. Sometimes they use the English name. Sometimes they use ???? names. They don't have horse names on the videos, the only thing to go by is the description which is just the track, date and race name. Its was incredibly hard to know what race is what because of the name changes. But listening to the horse names, Pedigreequery is right for the ones you need. https://www.youtube.com/@iena-institute ... 6/featured
In The Field did win the 2020 Poule d'Essai. Which race is this? Who knows. From 2016 to 2019 it was definitely the 1000 Guineas. I watched 2016 and 2019 and the winners matched with the 1000 Guineas winners.
Maybe because of the pandemic they combined the 2 races for 2020? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btVGF3_qOxY There are no results for a race named this after 2020.
They have videos for 2016-2019 for the 2000 Guineas but not in 2020 or 2021. Then in 2022 and 2023 the 2000 Guineas has some other name, with 2000 Guineas at the end. In 2024, the 2000 Guineas was removed and it was only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ad1BpdDOBc whatever that name is.
I can't find any Oaks after 2019. Its the Prix de Diane. The race with Oaks in the name is something else.
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Now let's appreciate the true gem I found on their site. Nordic pony races. Which is the slowest race I've ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOGZu3lPXCY
The short answer, everything on PQ appears to be right from what I've found. The winners and no races run. Except 2020 - 1000/2000 Guineas, see below, because I still have no clue, though I do have a theory.
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So I found the Swiss racing Youtube channel, they switch between German and French depending on which track the race was run at. The races also move tracks so the race names changes. Sometimes they use the English name. Sometimes they use ???? names. They don't have horse names on the videos, the only thing to go by is the description which is just the track, date and race name. Its was incredibly hard to know what race is what because of the name changes. But listening to the horse names, Pedigreequery is right for the ones you need. https://www.youtube.com/@iena-institute ... 6/featured
In The Field did win the 2020 Poule d'Essai. Which race is this? Who knows. From 2016 to 2019 it was definitely the 1000 Guineas. I watched 2016 and 2019 and the winners matched with the 1000 Guineas winners.
Maybe because of the pandemic they combined the 2 races for 2020? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btVGF3_qOxY There are no results for a race named this after 2020.
They have videos for 2016-2019 for the 2000 Guineas but not in 2020 or 2021. Then in 2022 and 2023 the 2000 Guineas has some other name, with 2000 Guineas at the end. In 2024, the 2000 Guineas was removed and it was only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ad1BpdDOBc whatever that name is.
I can't find any Oaks after 2019. Its the Prix de Diane. The race with Oaks in the name is something else.
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Now let's appreciate the true gem I found on their site. Nordic pony races. Which is the slowest race I've ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOGZu3lPXCY
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Flanders
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I had typed so much stuff I had to reply too.MorganLeFay wrote: ↑Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:46 am It looks like there was no 2000 Guineas in 2020 and 2021.
What's a bit confusing in Switzerland is that over several years there was a 2000 Guineas at the racecourse Dielsdorf and also a Poule d'Essai at Avenches, but in 2021 neither was run.
Swiss Derby
2022: Winner Hello Hola Hay (Zarak - Hawwa), Trainer Lubos Urbanek
2024: Winner Nachthimmel (Fascinating Rock - Nordkappe), Trainer Christian von der Recke
The last 1000 Guineas and Oaks were in 2019 and haven't been run since due to lack of horses.
Let me know if you need any other Swiss results
Do you know if they ran the 2020 Poule d' Essai as a combined race? Because there is definitely a video of it that I included, but its the 1000 Guineas and a colt won, like Miesque said.
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MorganLeFay
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Right the Poule d'Essai was always a combined race open to colts and fillies, but was never considered a Classic race. It was normally ran at Avenches, except in 2020 it was at Dielsdorf (I think due to Covid)
The 1000 Guineas was a Classic race, always held at Avenches, the last time in 2019. Not held anymore due to not enough 3yo fillies in training in Switzerland.
The Poule d'Essai and the 1000 Guineas were always separate races, just happened to have the same winner in 2016 and 2019.
The 2000 Guineas is also a Classic race usually ran at Dielsdorf over the last 15 years (except 2012 & 2013 at Avenches).
This year there was no 2000 Guineas as there weren't enough entries. 2 races for 3yos were planned for the same day, the other race had more entries, so the races were combined into one race over 1800m.
With the Oaks / Diane it's a similar situation as the Poule d'Essai and the Guineas. The Oaks were at Avenches and not a Classic, whereas the Diane/Stutenderby was at Dielsdorf and considered Classic. Neither have been run in the last 5+ years.
Hope this explains it a bit more
The 1000 Guineas was a Classic race, always held at Avenches, the last time in 2019. Not held anymore due to not enough 3yo fillies in training in Switzerland.
The Poule d'Essai and the 1000 Guineas were always separate races, just happened to have the same winner in 2016 and 2019.
The 2000 Guineas is also a Classic race usually ran at Dielsdorf over the last 15 years (except 2012 & 2013 at Avenches).
This year there was no 2000 Guineas as there weren't enough entries. 2 races for 3yos were planned for the same day, the other race had more entries, so the races were combined into one race over 1800m.
With the Oaks / Diane it's a similar situation as the Poule d'Essai and the Guineas. The Oaks were at Avenches and not a Classic, whereas the Diane/Stutenderby was at Dielsdorf and considered Classic. Neither have been run in the last 5+ years.
Hope this explains it a bit more