HISA Rulings

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Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:28 am

While I totally agree with HISA on most counts, the omeprazole rulings baffle me- how is an anti-ulcer medication performance-enhancing? Since most racehorses have some degree of ulcers due to stress and feeding practices, I think this drug should be permitted. https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/s ... t-28-2024/
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Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:04 pm

Squeaky wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:28 am While I totally agree with HISA on most counts, the omeprazole rulings baffle me- how is an anti-ulcer medication performance-enhancing? Since most racehorses have some degree of ulcers due to stress and feeding practices, I think this drug should be permitted. https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/s ... t-28-2024/
Can it act as a masking agent? I really don’t know. I do know that Anniversary Year’s stomach was such an issue because of ulcers that I had to be really careful with any pain meds I administered the rest of his life.
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Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:52 pm

Curtis wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:04 pm
Squeaky wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:28 am While I totally agree with HISA on most counts, the omeprazole rulings baffle me- how is an anti-ulcer medication performance-enhancing? Since most racehorses have some degree of ulcers due to stress and feeding practices, I think this drug should be permitted. https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/s ... t-28-2024/
Can it act as a masking agent? I really don’t know. I do know that Anniversary Year’s stomach was such an issue because of ulcers that I had to be really careful with any pain meds I administered the rest of his life.
With so many potential (purported?) masking agents around it's a wonder there's ever a positive test for anything. And here the dumb parolees who have to test are still trying to fool the system by drinking 10 gallons of water. . . :lol:
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Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:03 pm

Diver52 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:52 pm
Curtis wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:04 pm
Squeaky wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:28 am While I totally agree with HISA on most counts, the omeprazole rulings baffle me- how is an anti-ulcer medication performance-enhancing? Since most racehorses have some degree of ulcers due to stress and feeding practices, I think this drug should be permitted. https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/s ... t-28-2024/
Can it act as a masking agent? I really don’t know. I do know that Anniversary Year’s stomach was such an issue because of ulcers that I had to be really careful with any pain meds I administered the rest of his life.
With so many potential (purported?) masking agents around it's a wonder there's ever a positive test for anything. And here the dumb parolees who have to test are still trying to fool the system by drinking 10 gallons of water. . . :lol:
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Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:45 pm

Squeaky wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:28 am While I totally agree with HISA on most counts, the omeprazole rulings baffle me- how is an anti-ulcer medication performance-enhancing? Since most racehorses have some degree of ulcers due to stress and feeding practices, I think this drug should be permitted. https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/s ... t-28-2024/
Omeprazole has always been on the controlled drug list, long before HISA. So there has to be some reason its on there. So they aren't following protocol and are giving too much.
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Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:22 pm

Thank god it isn’t restricted in the hunter/jumper world. My old man lives on omeprazole and sucralfate. Then gets misoprostol for a few months at a time if his hind gut ulcers act up.

He jumps the .60m with a 13 year old girl, and has gone to only 4 horseshows this year. Turned out every day, but he’s just a worrier. Can’t imagine not being able to treat something that almost all horses in competition suffer from.
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Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:50 pm

HISA question.....

Travers.....

Thorpedo Anna with Brian Hernandez up.

Maximum number of strikes with a whip is 6.......oops, Brian went one over the limit and will be fined.

What if...... the stewards noticed the 7 count during the race, could Anna have been disqualified and placed where, last?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:40 pm

stark wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:50 pm HISA question.....

Travers.....

Thorpedo Anna with Brian Hernandez up.

Maximum number of strikes with a whip is 6.......oops, Brian went one over the limit and will be fined.

What if...... the stewards noticed the 7 count during the race, could Anna have been disqualified and placed where, last?
7th for 7 strikes. If HISA had existed in 2015, Victor and American Pharoah would have been placed 5th in the 2019 Derby.
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Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:49 pm

Curtis wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:40 pm
stark wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:50 pm HISA question.....

Travers.....

Thorpedo Anna with Brian Hernandez up.

Maximum number of strikes with a whip is 6.......oops, Brian went one over the limit and will be fined.

What if...... the stewards noticed the 7 count during the race, could Anna have been disqualified and placed where, last?
7th for 7 strikes. If HISA had existed in 2015, Victor and American Pharoah would have been placed 5th in the 2019 Derby.
I would like to assume that the owners step up and pay the fines for their jockeys in such situations?
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:05 pm

stark wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:49 pm
Curtis wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:40 pm
stark wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:50 pm HISA question.....

Travers.....

Thorpedo Anna with Brian Hernandez up.

Maximum number of strikes with a whip is 6.......oops, Brian went one over the limit and will be fined.

What if...... the stewards noticed the 7 count during the race, could Anna have been disqualified and placed where, last?
7th for 7 strikes. If HISA had existed in 2015, Victor and American Pharoah would have been placed 5th in the 2019 Derby.
I would like to assume that the owners step up and pay the fines for their jockeys in such situations?
Owners………culpability……………?
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