Racing History: Kincsem: Mystery & Majesty

Post Reply
second_glance
Posts: 2524
Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:42 am

Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:38 pm

Happy Endings
Posts: 2737
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:12 pm

Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:27 pm

That was fascinating. Thanks for sharing...
I found my sneakers!
islandgirl45
Posts: 517
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:46 pm

Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:53 pm

second_glance wrote:Very well-done article.

http://thevaulthorseracing.wordpress.co ... -immortal/
Terrific article. To think she carried up to 168 pounds! What an amazing mare.
"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."
~President Dwight Eisenhower
User avatar
Kurenai
Site Admin
Posts: 1527
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:01 pm

Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:58 am

Still the greatest filly/mare of all time. It's insane to think how far she traveled (esp since transportation back then was anything but comfortable), how much weight she carried. She beat the best horses all over Europe.

A thing that doesn't get mentioned in the article: Later on Emperor Franz Josef was one of her biggest fans and was always in attendance when she raced in Austria. :D
User avatar
serenassong
Posts: 4710
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:36 pm
Location: Connecticut

Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:38 am

Wonderful story, thank you!
"I reject your reality, and substitute my own!"- Mythbusters
"Oh, What fresh Hell is this?!"- Sheldon Cooper(quoted from Dorothy Parker)- Big Bang Theory
"Sometimes I think he's the King of Stupid" - Old Man- Pawn Stars
User avatar
Northport
Posts: 4679
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:13 pm
Location: probably near the food

Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:42 am

Only ever heard bits about her, but it is great to get an in depth retelling of her story. Fantastic article!
weeeeeeeee
User avatar
Squeaky
Posts: 4755
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:29 pm

Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:54 am

They should make a movie of her life...would be great :-)
User avatar
ThreeMustangs
Posts: 2923
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:37 pm

Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:00 am

For pedigree geeks: she is Camelot's 17th dam.
Last edited by ThreeMustangs on Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Blue Jeans
Posts: 859
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:00 am

Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:39 pm

Looking forward to reading article ... will save link to read later. Thanks.

Got interested in Kincsem a few years ago when Peppers Pride was listed second on the list of undefeated TBs to Kincsem. Since then, Black Caviar took PP's place ... pushing PP to third. Kincsem will stay at the top of the list, for sure! :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_le ... ted_horses
Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear or a fool from any direction. ~ Cowboy saying

There is something about riding down the street on a prancing horse that makes you feel like something, even when you ain't a thing. ~ Will Rogers
User avatar
jjacks1
Posts: 39
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:46 am
Location: Lawrenceburg, KY

Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:08 pm

What a great read! Fantastic! Thanks for sharing! :D
Blue Jeans
Posts: 859
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:00 am

Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:53 pm

No wonder this story is such a great read! The story is written by Abigail Anderson, who posts at Blood-Horse and is known be a wonderful writer. Cheers to Ms. Anderson! I loved this story ... and beautifully written. Far better than anything I've read before on Kincsem, "Precious".

I should have read about the author before reading the article. :roll:

http://thevaulthorseracing.wordpress.com/about/
Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear or a fool from any direction. ~ Cowboy saying

There is something about riding down the street on a prancing horse that makes you feel like something, even when you ain't a thing. ~ Will Rogers
Catalina
Posts: 3760
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:08 pm
Location: South Texas

Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:55 pm

Fascinating read, thanks!!!
User avatar
Miss Woodford
Posts: 2149
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:34 pm

Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:31 pm

It's unfortunate that since she didn't race in the so-called "modern era" (whatever that means) she often goes unnoticed. Hardly any articles written about Black Caviar's "record" bothered to mention that Kincsem has more than double the victories. It seems like most people think Kincsem was just beating up on random Hungarian horses when in fact she did everything that modern champions are expected to do and then some.

Here's her complete race record (minus a few names of 2nd/3rd place finishers, etc.)
http://www.galopp-sieger.de/galoppsiege ... mCambuscan
THE VAULT_Abigail
Posts: 4
Joined: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:54 am

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:00 pm

Thank you to everyone for these fabulous comments! I just loved researching & writing KINCSEM's story. What a GREAT, great thoroughbred she was! And it's very gratifying to know that you share my enthusiasm for Kincsem.
Secretariatluvr
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:11 pm
Location: Wisconsin

Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:30 pm

Great article! She was an amazing racehorse.
shortlead
Posts: 166
Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:16 pm
Location: SoCal
Contact:

Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:11 am

I first read about, and fell in love with Kincsem when I read the book, More Than Courage by Lois Eby...WAY back when I was a little kid. The race where she decided to crop some grass before joining in was mentioned in the book. Any one else read this? Lots of neat stories there.
Give me that short lead, give me that win by a nose, get them all home safely!
Kay16
Posts: 1848
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:45 pm

Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:38 pm

Miss Woodford wrote:It's unfortunate that since she didn't race in the so-called "modern era" (whatever that means) she often goes unnoticed. Hardly any articles written about Black Caviar's "record" bothered to mention that Kincsem has more than double the victories. It seems like most people think Kincsem was just beating up on random Hungarian horses when in fact she did everything that modern champions are expected to do and then some.

Here's her complete race record (minus a few names of 2nd/3rd place finishers, etc.)
http://www.galopp-sieger.de/galoppsiege ... mCambuscan

She raced SO long ago, it's hard for us to get a handle on how good she really was. Can't blame those who rank her #1 and can't blame those who don't put her in their ranks at all.
Post Reply