2024 PREAKNESS STAKES

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Mon May 13, 2024 8:34 pm

Curtis wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 7:30 pm You can sometimes get decent odds on the “other Baffert”, but I have to think this is Fantasyland stuff. The Classic races and Breeder’s Cup definitely gets dumb money. I don’t know if the ML maker is choosing to just ignore that this horse will be over bet or what? It’s hard enough to handicap the horses without having to handicap the ML maker.
Predicting the public is always tough, especially on these big race days, and I don't envy the task at all. But it does feel a bit like the linemaker put those numbers together a week ago and then didn't really update them, and I wonder if it's going to increase the money on Catching Freedom as a result. He's not necessarily my top choice, this is a field with a high number of conceivable winners, but it does throw a bit of a wrench into things.

Now, there's also really no conceivable reason as to why Muth should be 8/5 against this field... but I do think that's an accurate reflection of the way the public will approach this race.
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Mon May 13, 2024 9:21 pm

Nothing too exotic for me, don't feel like marking the all box trying to hit the superfecta.

Keep it simple stupid
Exacta box 4/9 9/4
Muth and Imagination
And a win bet on the 9 if he drifts to 8-1.

I think it's pretty much tradition that the Derby winner becomes the favorite in the Preakness but it's difficult to overlook those 6 lengths from their last battle.
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Tue May 14, 2024 9:57 am

I've barely had time to process anything that happened during my trip and now it's already time for the Preakness.

I won't get to watch because I'll be doing a show but it looks like the race will be pretty lame IMO.
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Saturday’s forecast: Showers likely, mainly after 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 69. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
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Tue May 14, 2024 4:52 pm

Mylute wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 9:57 am I've barely had time to process anything that happened during my trip and now it's already time for the Preakness.

I won't get to watch because I'll be doing a show but it looks like the race will be pretty lame IMO.
I’m not sure “lame” is the best choice of euphemism.
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Tue May 14, 2024 6:28 pm

Wonder how many trainers show up for Thursday’s alibi breakfast? Wasn’t Shug the only one who turned up last year? Hope Coach and Bob show up. I think Kenny will too.
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Wed May 15, 2024 9:35 am

Muth Withdrawn From Preakness
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/m ... preakness/

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brunanas wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 9:35 am Muth Withdrawn From Preakness
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/m ... preakness/

spiked a temperature.
That's seriously gonna change the race. Lots of people considered Muth a major contender
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Wed May 15, 2024 11:00 am

But I wanted to bet against him...

Does the Preakness now get an asterisk just like the Derby because Muth isn't in it? Is that how this all works?
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Wed May 15, 2024 11:12 am

it is rather poetic that, after all the fuss Zedan made about Muth not getting into the Derby... the horse cannot run in the preakness now either. but i do truly feel bad for Muth. not his fault of course and i sincerely hope he recovers quickly and is well again soon.

but i will certainly not miss Zedan (ugh) having the floor in the preakness and rattling on about how baff is getting screwed in racing and what a great trainer he is.

although i am not a fan of the ownership group of imagination either (ugh again). hoping he doesn't win the thing. not sure his loss in the SA Derby was flattered in any way by Stronghold's run in the Derby. but i don't want to hear that ownership group pontificating on the greatness of baffert either.

let's go Dan!
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Tessablue wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 11:00 am But I wanted to bet against him...

Does the Preakness now get an asterisk just like the Derby because Muth isn't in it? Is that how this all works?
i asked my friend the same question.
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Curtis wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 4:52 pm
Mylute wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 9:57 am I've barely had time to process anything that happened during my trip and now it's already time for the Preakness.

I won't get to watch because I'll be doing a show but it looks like the race will be pretty lame IMO.
I’m not sure “lame” is the best choice of euphemism.
Close enough
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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stark wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:21 pm Nothing too exotic for me, don't feel like marking the all box trying to hit the superfecta.

Keep it simple stupid
Exacta box 4/9 9/4
Muth and Imagination
And a win bet on the 9 if he drifts to 8-1.

I think it's pretty much tradition that the Derby winner becomes the favorite in the Preakness but it's difficult to overlook those 6 lengths from their last battle.
Okay, scratch that.

Let's go against conventional wisdom and box the OUTSIDE two horses in the exacta.
8-9/9-8
Tuscan Gold and Imagination.
No win bet, doubt either horse will be 8/1 at post time.

As for the rain and the sloppy track, good thing it's not at Santa Anita, else we'd be looking at May 25 for the rescheduled event ;)
I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Wed May 15, 2024 1:23 pm

I still really like Imagination. I know he is the 'other Baffert' but he always gives 100% into his race! Bummed about Muth though. I wanted Good Magic to have another classic winner.
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brunanas wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 12:10 pm
Tessablue wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 11:00 am But I wanted to bet against him...

Does the Preakness now get an asterisk just like the Derby because Muth isn't in it? Is that how this all works?
i asked my friend the same question.
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In 1980, in the run up to the Classics, a horse began to stand out from the rest an Arts and Letters colt named Codex. He followed up a dominant win in the Santa Anita Derby with an equally impressive, facile triumph in the Hollywood Derby. Oddly enough, his trainer D. Wayne Lukas, probably more anal and detail oriented then than now, neglected to make Codex eligible for the Derby and because at the time, Churchill Downs did not allow supplemental entries, Codex had to defer until the Preakness. I never thought Genuine Risk—a truly great story—deserved to have an asterisk next to her Derby triumph, but a perfectly healthy 3yo colt, loaded for bear wasn’t allowed to run because of the whims of human decision making. All part of the legends that become facts.
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Wed May 15, 2024 2:27 pm

Curtis wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 2:21 pm
brunanas wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 12:10 pm
Tessablue wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 11:00 am But I wanted to bet against him...

Does the Preakness now get an asterisk just like the Derby because Muth isn't in it? Is that how this all works?
i asked my friend the same question.
Being a master of the arts of satire and impudence, you have both met with my approval!😉
i feel honored
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Wed May 15, 2024 3:52 pm

Just gonna root for Mystik Dan and Just Steel and call it a day, lol.
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Wed May 15, 2024 8:59 pm

luvsgeldings wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 11:12 am it is rather poetic that, after all the fuss Zedan made about Muth not getting into the Derby... the horse cannot run in the preakness now either. but i do truly feel bad for Muth. not his fault of course and i sincerely hope he recovers quickly and is well again soon.

but i will certainly not miss Zedan (ugh) having the floor in the preakness and rattling on about how baff is getting screwed in racing and what a great trainer he is.

although i am not a fan of the ownership group of imagination either (ugh again). hoping he doesn't win the thing. not sure his loss in the SA Derby was flattered in any way by Stronghold's run in the Derby. but i don't want to hear that ownership group pontificating on the greatness of baffert either.

let's go Dan!
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Thu May 16, 2024 3:07 pm

I've found it easier to tear up tickets at 8/1 instead of 8/5.
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Thu May 16, 2024 4:19 pm

I agree with Andy mostly, l like Tuscan Gold, Dan and Catching Freedom in here.
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