With a better start and trip she would have won IMO
2022 Japanese Racing
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Irish Oaks winner Magical Lagoon(IRE) will run in the G1 Queen Elizabeth II Cup 2200m turf at Hanshin on Nov 13th.
https://japanracing.jp/_news2022/221020.html
https://twitter.com/netkeiba/status/1582942989071966208
https://japanracing.jp/_news2022/221020.html
https://twitter.com/netkeiba/status/1582942989071966208
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Makahiki has finally retired from racing.tachyon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:34 amHi Palace Malice,Palace Malice wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:08 pmHave they talked about why they are not retiring Makahiki yet?tachyon wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:48 am -- replay of the G2 Sapporo Kinen (Kansai TV version - Japanese)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWYhun-Gkz4
1st 4 Jack d'Or(JPN) [Maurice(JPN) x Ravarino(USA) by Unbridled's Song(USA)] C4 57 02:01.2
2nd 3 Panthalassa(JPN) [Lord Kanaloa(JPN) x Miss Pemberley(IRE) by Montjeu(IRE)] H5 57 02:01.2 NK
3rd 9 Win Marilyn(JPN) [Screen Hero(JPN) x Cosmo Cielo(JPN) by Fusaichi Pegasus(USA)] M5 55 02:01.4 1 1/2
4th 12 Arata(JPN) H5 57 02:01.5 NK
5th 10 Sodashi(JPN) F4 55 02:01.8 1 3/4
6th 6 Glory Vase(JPN) H7 57 02:01.8 NK
7th 16 Anticipate(JPN) H5 57 02:01.9 1/2
8th 8 Fiori Chiari(JPN) M5 55 02:02.1 1
9th 13 Red Galant(JPN) H7 57 02:02.1 NK
10th 7 Hayayakko(JPN) H6 57 02:02.4 1 3/4
11th 14 Uberleben(JPN) F4 55 02:02.6 1 1/4
12th 11 Unicorn Lion(IRE) H6 57 02:03.2 3 1/2
13th 5 Satono Chronicle(JPN) H8 57 02:03.2 HD
14th 15 Cadence Call(JPN) H6 57 02:03.6 2 1/2
15th 2 Ice Bubble(JPN) H7 57 02:03.6 NK
16th 1 Makahiki(JPN) H9 57 02:04.6 6
I didn't think that Sodashi ran a bad race considering today's testing turf condition and the distance. (last year she won this race in 1:59.5 on a quicker turf)
I hope she will show her best again when she will cut back in the distance next time out.
The top two horses were very good.
Jack d'Or will head to the Tenno Sho Autumn seeking for his first G1 title.
Panthalassa might head to either the Tenno Sho Autumn or an overseas race.
He is 9 years old, has done far enough and is a derby winner... why are they waiting so long to send him to stud?
many fans are worrying about Makahiki in Japan, too, and saying why he had not been retired yet.
But Makahiki is owned by Mr Makoto Kaneko, one of the most celebrated horse people in Japan, if not the best.
And we may agree that Kaneko is an owner who knows what he has to do with his horses.
Then why this happened?
I think that this is an interesting topic --- so let's look into his lifetime race record first!!
-- Makahiki's rece record:
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001171707/record/
His record was nearly perfect until he won the G2 Prix Niel in France at 3yo.
But, three weeks later, he finished only 14th in the Arc and things started to go wrong with the 2015 Japanese Derby winner.
Kaneko could have retired him from racing soon after his defeat in the Arc to secure a good stud deal for him.
But, as we know well, a good colt is rarely retired to stud at 3yo as long as he is sound in Japan.
So, not surprisingly, Keneko decided to race him on as an older horse.
At 4, he finished in a good 4th in the Japan Cup, which must have made Kaneko to race him on for another year.
But, it was very unfortune that he had a broken bone found in late December when all the stud deals were already closed for the following season.
At 5, off a 8 months layoff due to the injury, he managed to finish 2nd in the Sapporo Kinen and everyone applauded his gutsy effort hoping for his further success on the turf and Kaneko kept him in training (maybe to increase his stud value, too).
But, he became inconsistent and, as time goes by, I suspect that Kaneko had more and more difficulty finding a reasonable stud deal for him.
At 8, he won the G2 Kyoto Daishoten miraculously in last October.
But it looks like he lost his shine after that race.....
Makahiki and his record may tell us how difficult it is to find the right timing to send a good horse to stud.
Even Mr Makoto Kaneko can make a mistake.
He will stand at Lex Stud.
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THE KIKUKA SHO (JAPANESE ST.LEGER)(G1)
October 23, 2022, 3000m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT C&F DSN, Weight for Age, 3-Year-Olds, Open Class, Value of race: 329,790,000 Yen
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THE KIKUKA SHO (JAPANESE ST.LEGER)(G1)
October 23, 2022, 3000m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT C&F DSN, Weight for Age, 3-Year-Olds, Open Class, Value of race: 329,790,000 Yen
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Thanks, Tachyon! For some reason, I was thinking this race was NEXT weekend---I would have missed it. Pulling for Boldog Hos, Verona City, and Justin Palace here.
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The Kikuka Sho looks very wide-open this year.
This is the first time in 65 years that none of the winners & the runners-up in the Satsuki Sho and the Tokyo Yushun run in the final leg of the Triple Crown races.
I personally would love to see Kitasan Black sire his first G1 winner here!
This is the first time in 65 years that none of the winners & the runners-up in the Satsuki Sho and the Tokyo Yushun run in the final leg of the Triple Crown races.
I personally would love to see Kitasan Black sire his first G1 winner here!
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It would not break my heart to see Gaia Force win either! I'm waiting to see if Geoglyph and Equinox run in the Tenno Sho, being my two favorite Japanese three year old turf horses this year.tachyon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:37 am The Kikuka Sho looks very wide-open this year.
This is the first time in 65 years that none of the winners & the runners-up in the Satsuki Sho and the Tokyo Yushun run in the final leg of the Triple Crown races.
I personally would love to see Kitasan Black sire his first G1 winner here!
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I saw that the great Oju Chosan (9th in the Tokyo High Jump last weekend) will be retired this year after one last run in the Nakayama Daishogai on Dec. 24th. https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4f1af ... 0fa93de68d
tachyon, do you know if a stud farm has been found to stand him next year? If no Japanese farm wants him he'd be an amazing get for National Hunt breeders in Europe...
tachyon, do you know if a stud farm has been found to stand him next year? If no Japanese farm wants him he'd be an amazing get for National Hunt breeders in Europe...
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Yes, they say Oju Chosan will be retired after the Nakayama Daishogai.Miss Woodford wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:14 am I saw that the great Oju Chosan (9th in the Tokyo High Jump last weekend) will be retired this year after one last run in the Nakayama Daishogai on Dec. 24th. https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/4f1af ... 0fa93de68d
tachyon, do you know if a stud farm has been found to stand him next year? If no Japanese farm wants him he'd be an amazing get for National Hunt breeders in Europe...
But his future plan has not yet been announced.
I'm sure he will be loved by everyone wherever he settles in Japan.
But it will really be great if he becomes a stallion for National Hunt.
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What a race!
What a finish!!
2nd favorite Ask Victor More(JPN)(Deep Impact) won the G1 Kikuka Sho, final leg of the Triple Crown, 3000m turf at Hanshin under Hironobu Tanabe while marking a course record on Oct 23rd 2022.
That was a Shadai Farm bred quinella.
-- replay (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-AH3fFe_2o
1st 14 Ask Victor More(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Kartica(GB) by Rainbow Quest(USA)] C3 57 03:02.4
2nd 4 Boldog Hos(JPN) [Screen Hero(JPN) x Boldogsag(FR) by Layman(USA)] C3 57 03:02.4 NS
3rd 17 Justin Palace(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Palace Rumor(USA) by Royal Anthem(USA)] C3 57 03:02.5 1/2
4th 11 Douradores(JPN) C3 57 03:03.4 5
5th 9 Shihono Speranza(JPN) C3 57 03:03.4 NK
6th 5 Yamanin Zest(JPN) C3 57 03:03.6 1 1/4
7th 3 Pradaria(JPN) C3 57 03:03.6 NK
8th 1 Gaia Force(JPN) C3 57 03:04.0 2 1/2
9th 7 Ask Wild More(JPN) C3 57 03:04.2 1
10th 2 Shelby's Eye(JPN) C3 57 03:04.4 1
11th 18 Seleccion(JPN) C3 57 03:04.8 2 1/2
12th 12 Verona City(JPN) C3 57 03:05.2 2 1/2
13th 6 Be Astonished(JPN) C3 57 03:05.6 2
14th 13 Dinasta(JPN) C3 57 03:06.1 3
15th 16 Feengrotten(JPN) C3 57 03:06.2 1/2
16th 15 Pod Bullet(JPN) C3 57 03:06.8 3 1/2
17th 10 Seiun Hades(JPN) C3 57 03:07.6 5
18th 8 Meiner Turpan(JPN) C3 57 03:08.9 8
Ask Victor More(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001308957/
9-4-1-3
What a finish!!
2nd favorite Ask Victor More(JPN)(Deep Impact) won the G1 Kikuka Sho, final leg of the Triple Crown, 3000m turf at Hanshin under Hironobu Tanabe while marking a course record on Oct 23rd 2022.
That was a Shadai Farm bred quinella.
-- replay (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-AH3fFe_2o
1st 14 Ask Victor More(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Kartica(GB) by Rainbow Quest(USA)] C3 57 03:02.4
2nd 4 Boldog Hos(JPN) [Screen Hero(JPN) x Boldogsag(FR) by Layman(USA)] C3 57 03:02.4 NS
3rd 17 Justin Palace(JPN) [Deep Impact(JPN) x Palace Rumor(USA) by Royal Anthem(USA)] C3 57 03:02.5 1/2
4th 11 Douradores(JPN) C3 57 03:03.4 5
5th 9 Shihono Speranza(JPN) C3 57 03:03.4 NK
6th 5 Yamanin Zest(JPN) C3 57 03:03.6 1 1/4
7th 3 Pradaria(JPN) C3 57 03:03.6 NK
8th 1 Gaia Force(JPN) C3 57 03:04.0 2 1/2
9th 7 Ask Wild More(JPN) C3 57 03:04.2 1
10th 2 Shelby's Eye(JPN) C3 57 03:04.4 1
11th 18 Seleccion(JPN) C3 57 03:04.8 2 1/2
12th 12 Verona City(JPN) C3 57 03:05.2 2 1/2
13th 6 Be Astonished(JPN) C3 57 03:05.6 2
14th 13 Dinasta(JPN) C3 57 03:06.1 3
15th 16 Feengrotten(JPN) C3 57 03:06.2 1/2
16th 15 Pod Bullet(JPN) C3 57 03:06.8 3 1/2
17th 10 Seiun Hades(JPN) C3 57 03:07.6 5
18th 8 Meiner Turpan(JPN) C3 57 03:08.9 8
Ask Victor More(JPN)
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001308957/
9-4-1-3
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Both Geoglyph and Equinox have been entered for the Tenno Sho Autumn for next Sunday!MissNMecke wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:53 amIt would not break my heart to see Gaia Force win either! I'm waiting to see if Geoglyph and Equinox run in the Tenno Sho, being my two favorite Japanese three year old turf horses this year.tachyon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 12:37 am The Kikuka Sho looks very wide-open this year.
This is the first time in 65 years that none of the winners & the runners-up in the Satsuki Sho and the Tokyo Yushun run in the final leg of the Triple Crown races.
I personally would love to see Kitasan Black sire his first G1 winner here!
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The Tenno Sho Autumn tomorrow is going to be a very exciting showdown between the 3yos and the older horses.
-- from bloodhorse:
''Japanese Globetrotters Staying Home for Tenno Sho''
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -tenno-sho
TOKYO 11R
THE TENNO SHO(AUTUMN)(G1)
October 30, 2022, 2000m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds & Up, Open Class, Value of race: 384,500,000 Yen
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-- from bloodhorse:
''Japanese Globetrotters Staying Home for Tenno Sho''
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -tenno-sho
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THE TENNO SHO(AUTUMN)(G1)
October 30, 2022, 2000m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds & Up, Open Class, Value of race: 384,500,000 Yen
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Photo paddock:
-- 3yos
Equinox(JPN)(Kitasan Black) C3
Geoglyph(JPN)(Drefong) C3
Danon Beluga(JPN)(Heart's Cry) C3
-- older horses
Jack d'Or(JPN)(Maurice) C4
Shahryar(JPN)(Deep Impact) C4
Panthalassa(JPN)(Lord Kanaloa) H5
Potager(JPN)(Deep Impact) H5
Uberleben(JPN)(Gold Ship) F4
Maria Elena(JPN)(Kurofune) F4
-- 3yos
Equinox(JPN)(Kitasan Black) C3
Geoglyph(JPN)(Drefong) C3
Danon Beluga(JPN)(Heart's Cry) C3
-- older horses
Jack d'Or(JPN)(Maurice) C4
Shahryar(JPN)(Deep Impact) C4
Panthalassa(JPN)(Lord Kanaloa) H5
Potager(JPN)(Deep Impact) H5
Uberleben(JPN)(Gold Ship) F4
Maria Elena(JPN)(Kurofune) F4
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They're all so gorgeous but Jack d'Or caught my eye instantly. He looks like a 19th century painting of a TB (in a good way).
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Of course I have to cheer on my boys Geoglyph, Equinox, and Jack D'Or. But I have to say that Babbitt is a very striking animal..........
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MissNMecke wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:38 am Of course I have to cheer on my boys Geoglyph, Equinox, and Jack D'Or. But I have to say that Babbitt is a very striking animal..........and obviously he's pretty but not pretty fast.
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-- replay (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqljDQ0j9kE
-- replay (Japanese - full version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvtfIprDSwQ
1st 7 Equinox(JPN) [Kitasan Black(JPN) x Chateau Blanche(JPN) by King Halo(JPN)] C3 56 01:57.5
2nd 3 Panthalassa(JPN) [Lord Kanaloa(JPN) x Miss Pemberley(IRE) by Montjeu(IRE)] H5 58 01:57.6 1
3rd 5 Danon Beluga(JPN) [Heart's Cry(JPN) x Coasted(USA) by Tizway(USA)] C3 56 01:57.7 NK
4th 9 Jack d'Or(JPN) C4 58 01:57.8 1/2
5th 8 Shahryar(JPN) C4 58 01:58.1 2
6th 2 Karate(JPN) H6 58 01:58.2 1
7th 1 Maria Elena(JPN) F4 56 01:58.2 NS
8th 14 Uberleben(JPN) F4 56 01:58.3 NK
9th 6 Geoglyph(JPN) C3 56 01:58.3 NK
10th 13 Ablaze(JPN) M5 56 01:58.3 NK
11th 10 North Bridge(JPN) C4 58 01:58.4 HD
12th 15 Cadenas(JPN) H8 58 01:58.4 NK
13th 4 Potager(JPN) H5 58 01:58.4 NK
14th 11 Red Galant(JPN) H7 58 01:58.7 1 1/2
15th 12 Babbitt(JPN) H5 58 01:58.7 HD