Older horses 2024

[Mylute]

HRN (which tends to be fairly accurate for this stuff) shows my favorite boy Rattle N Roll as being pointed to either the Fayette S. (G2) or the Classic (G1). He 's actually entered in the Fayette.

Conflicted about this. He finished third last out in a G2 which is great considering he'd been off for a year (actually two days from it being a full year). But I think he's better at shorter distances. I feel he would be better suited for the Dirt Mile, which won't be an easy race either, it seems (competition wise).

McPeek is no stranger to running horses back-to-back so I suppose we could see him in both.

[Curtis]

I won't lie, I forgot this horse even existed

Paulick Report
2019 Breeders' Cup Juvenile winner Storm The Court may race again before heading to stud in California in 2025.

He’s been bouncing around getting a few checks in FL and MD. I tossed a couple of dollars on him in a stake at Gulfstream last winter. I wonder if he’s going to maybe run again back that way or come to DMR to whet the appetites of the CA breeders?

[Tessablue]

Um that's 2019 CHAMPION Storm the Court you're all talking about. Put some respect on the name of a legend

[CoronadosQuest]

Um that's 2019 CHAMPION Storm the Court you're all talking about. Put some respect on the name of a legend

Looking at his 2 year old record... the 2yo crop must have been pretty ick in 2019 if he won 2yo Champion colt off of 1 MSW and the Juve.

[Tessablue]

Um that's 2019 CHAMPION Storm the Court you're all talking about. Put some respect on the name of a legend

Looking at his 2 year old record... the 2yo crop must have been pretty ick in 2019 if he won 2yo Champion colt off of 1 MSW and the Juve.

Yeah, it was a pretty wretched year for 2yos. Eight Rings and Dennis' Moment had some hype, but both ran far off the board as the two heavy favorites in the Juvenile. Tiz the Law had a chance, but finished third in the Kentucky Jockey Club. The BC Juvenile Turf winner finished a clear second in the voting. A horse named Nucky won the Del Mar Futurity.

And still the one thing I remember best is how I placed a huge win/ cold exacta bet on longshot Anneau d'Or in the Juvenile, only to watch him refuse to pass Storm the Court for the entire length of the stretch. A crop best forgotten, I think...

[Curtis]

Um that's 2019 CHAMPION Storm the Court you're all talking about. Put some respect on the name of a legend

Looking at his 2 year old record... the 2yo crop must have been pretty ick in 2019 if he won 2yo Champion colt off of 1 MSW and the Juve.

Yeah, it was a pretty wretched year for 2yos. Eight Rings and Dennis' Moment had some hype, but both ran far off the board as the two heavy favorites in the Juvenile. Tiz the Law had a chance, but finished third in the Kentucky Jockey Club. The BC Juvenile Turf winner finished a clear second in the voting. A horse named Nucky won the Del Mar Futurity.

And still the one thing I remember best is how I placed a huge win/ cold exacta bet on longshot Anneau d'Or in the Juvenile, only to watch him refuse to pass Storm the Court for the entire length of the stretch. A crop best forgotten, I think...

Remembering Nucky’s DMR Futurity, either Eight Rings or Storm the Court broke in and I’m pretty sure they both lost their riders. So in the end, somebody had to win, it just happened to be Nucky. That was one of those deals in which the voters just threw up their hands and voted for the BCJ winner figuring he’d move up as he matured and no one would think again about it. Well that didn’t work, I think Storm the Court is winless since.

[CoronadosQuest]

Um that's 2019 CHAMPION Storm the Court you're all talking about. Put some respect on the name of a legend

Looking at his 2 year old record... the 2yo crop must have been pretty ick in 2019 if he won 2yo Champion colt off of 1 MSW and the Juve.

Yeah, it was a pretty wretched year for 2yos. Eight Rings and Dennis' Moment had some hype, but both ran far off the board as the two heavy favorites in the Juvenile. Tiz the Law had a chance, but finished third in the Kentucky Jockey Club. The BC Juvenile Turf winner finished a clear second in the voting. A horse named Nucky won the Del Mar Futurity.

And still the one thing I remember best is how I placed a huge win/ cold exacta bet on longshot Anneau d'Or in the Juvenile, only to watch him refuse to pass Storm the Court for the entire length of the stretch. A crop best forgotten, I think...

Its just so weird to me because I feel like the horses that were so precocious as 2yos in 2019 really flopped when they hit 3, and the star 3 year olds of 2020 must have just not wanted to be 2. Except Tiz the Law. He seems to be the exception I looked up the Champagne, Hopeful, etc. and didn't recognize anybody

[Flanders]

I won't lie, I forgot this horse even existed

Paulick Report
2019 Breeders' Cup Juvenile winner Storm The Court may race again before heading to stud in California in 2025.

He’s been bouncing around getting a few checks in FL and MD. I tossed a couple of dollars on him in a stake at Gulfstream last winter. I wonder if he’s going to maybe run again back that way or come to DMR to whet the appetites of the CA breeders?

I think they'd do their best not to make his record any worse than it already is.

[Tessablue]

Yeah I remembered some sort of weirdness in the Nucky race, but looking back at the replay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-MnTr_ugNg), it was pretty wild. Eight Rings just totally spooked and took out Storm the Court early, and Nucky took advantage of it for a glorious G1 win. He was last seen finishing last in a claiming race at Mountaineer, and given that he was owned by Rockingham Ranch, one can only wonder what he is up to today.

And yet for all that 2019 was a terrible bunch of 2yos, 2020 featured one of the best BC Juvenile fields ever. G1 winners Essential Quality, Hot Rod Charlie, Jackie's Warrior, Rombauer, useful colts like Reinvestment Risk, Keepmeinmind, King Fury, and Calibrate... and, bringing up the rear, a nice little horse named Next. You really just never know!

(and speaking of Next, does he get a shot at Older Dirt Male with National Treasure out of the BC? I don't think he's likely to win a BC race, and he has no G1 wins, but with sentiment on his side and a 3yo Classic winner, would he get some consideration?)

[Flanders]

Yeah I remembered some sort of weirdness in the Nucky race, but looking back at the replay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-MnTr_ugNg), it was pretty wild. Eight Rings just totally spooked and took out Storm the Court early, and Nucky took advantage of it for a glorious G1 win. He was last seen finishing last in a claiming race at Mountaineer, and given that he was owned by Rockingham Ranch, one can only wonder what he is up to today.

And yet for all that 2019 was a terrible bunch of 2yos, 2020 featured one of the best BC Juvenile fields ever. G1 winners Essential Quality, Hot Rod Charlie, Jackie's Warrior, Rombauer, useful colts like Reinvestment Risk, Keepmeinmind, King Fury, and Calibrate... and, bringing up the rear, a nice little horse named Next. You really just never know!

(and speaking of Next, does he get a shot at Older Dirt Male with National Treasure out of the BC? I don't think he's likely to win a BC race, and he has no G1 wins, but with sentiment on his side and a 3yo Classic winner, would he get some consideration?)

othybat asked and I thought the same as you but I found him, alive and well. its in the whatever happened to thread below.

As for Next, there is no way a horse without a G1 win gets an Eclipse.

[Tessablue]

Oh nice! I’m happy to hear it. Thanks for looking into that!

And yeah, probably not, but I can see him earning some votes nonetheless. It would at least make for some… fun… discourse beforehand, and the unwritten rules have been bent in the past. Years like this are why Older Male became synonymous with Older Turf Male in the past.

(Now watch Mixto win the Classic and the title)

[Curtis]

I won't lie, I forgot this horse even existed

Paulick Report
2019 Breeders' Cup Juvenile winner Storm The Court may race again before heading to stud in California in 2025.

He’s been bouncing around getting a few checks in FL and MD. I tossed a couple of dollars on him in a stake at Gulfstream last winter. I wonder if he’s going to maybe run again back that way or come to DMR to whet the appetites of the CA breeders?

I think they'd do their best not to make his record any worse than it already is.

Maybe, but at this point it’s a matter of in for a penny, in for a pound.

[Squeaky]

Messier bled and was pulled up in the Forty Niner at AQE today. Getting tired of Dutrow raving about how well the horse was doing. Poor guy needs to be retired. https://x.com/tripledeadheat/status/185 ... 27551?s=46

[mahubah]

Messier bled and was pulled up in the Forty Niner at AQE today. Getting tired of Dutrow raving about how well the horse was doing. Poor guy needs to be retired. https://x.com/tripledeadheat/status/185 ... 27551?s=46

Might make a good fit for the Argentine or Chilean stallion markets.

[Izvestia]

Please just retire Messier.

[Flanders]

HRN (which tends to be fairly accurate for this stuff) shows my favorite boy Rattle N Roll as being pointed to either the Fayette S. (G2) or the Classic (G1). He 's actually entered in the Fayette.

Conflicted about this. He finished third last out in a G2 which is great considering he'd been off for a year (actually two days from it being a full year). But I think he's better at shorter distances. I feel he would be better suited for the Dirt Mile, which won't be an easy race either, it seems (competition wise).

McPeek is no stranger to running horses back-to-back so I suppose we could see him in both.

He scratched but it leads me to a question. What exactly is "Stakes Scratch"? Its something that is relatively new on Equibase. Before they just had vet scratch, trainer scratch, steward scratch (then like MTO/AE scratch)

[Curtis]

HRN (which tends to be fairly accurate for this stuff) shows my favorite boy Rattle N Roll as being pointed to either the Fayette S. (G2) or the Classic (G1). He 's actually entered in the Fayette.

Conflicted about this. He finished third last out in a G2 which is great considering he'd been off for a year (actually two days from it being a full year). But I think he's better at shorter distances. I feel he would be better suited for the Dirt Mile, which won't be an easy race either, it seems (competition wise).

McPeek is no stranger to running horses back-to-back so I suppose we could see him in both.

He scratched but it leads me to a question. What exactly is "Stakes Scratch"? Its something that is relatively new on Equibase. Before they just had vet scratch, trainer scratch, steward scratch (then like MTO/AE scratch)

Just a guess but it probably just means he was nominated to multiple stakes and scratched in favor of one of the BC races. It used to be that for an overnight race, a trainer couldn’t scratch for another similar spot because of the draw or stronger competition than anticipated or whatever. Those were called “stuck horses” because they were stuck having to run.

[Nenikikamen23]

Kabirkhan has been sent to a farm for a break after not training well. He might not make a start in the US afterall and is supposed to return to Dubai for the winter meet.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... n-the-road

Plans on track, he's been exported. Really do hope we get to see him return to the U.S. next year

[Mylute]

Is Arthur's Ride remaining in training? IIRC Gainesway bought his rights.

[stark]

National Treasure, the three-time Grade 1-winning son of Quality Road, has been retired from racing and will take up residence at Eric and Tamara Gustavson’s Spendthrift Farm in Lexington, Ky., where he will stand stud in 2025 for an introductory fee of $40,000 standing and nursing.

National Treasure, a classic winner of the Preakness Stakes and victor in the Grade 1 Pegasus World Cup and Metropolitan Handicap (G1) in 2024, is available for inspection by appointment.