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Is modern games running today or tomorrow
Why walk when you could ride?
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He finished fourth in the Queen Anne on Tuesday.
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Witch Hunter (Siyouni - Sorciere) wins the Buckingham Palace S. 50-1 I believe.
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Valient Force upsets the (G2) Norfolk Stakes at 99-1 odds! Out of the late Malibu Moon and a Quality Road mare, Vigui's Heart.
Looks like American Rascal was 13th. I wonder if they'll give him another try on turf (worth a shot given the dam) or if they'll immediately put him back on dirt.
Looks like American Rascal was 13th. I wonder if they'll give him another try on turf (worth a shot given the dam) or if they'll immediately put him back on dirt.
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I’d think the fairy tale was over, but owners will probably keep footing the bill just to have the prestige of having a horse run at RA. How often do you get a chance to attend an event with the King of England?
Irad was back riding at Belmont today.
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I don't know if its ever been a fairy tale. Its just been a neat story that gets attention because a US trainer consistently sends horses to Royal Ascot meet every year. Its rare that a horse ships from the US to race anywhere out of North America. He only has like a 11% win rate and 25% place rate in the UK(this is going to include other UK starts, I'm not even trying to only find Royal Ascot stats). Its not like Charlie Appleby in US races, who has a 41% win rate and 71% place rate. Ward has had success, its just really hard to ship a horse that far to run on a track that is completely different than what we have in the US. He is going to have years he doesn't win, especially when he only sent 4 horses this year.
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In fairness, American Rascal was on the worst part of the course and got bumped pretty hard late. I'd give him a mulligan for this one.
But man, these races feel like playing the lottery. Gigantic fields with no rhyme or reason to the odds and huge longshot winners everywhere. It's fun, but it'd be more fun if the ADW streaming option wasn't so terrible. Can barely see any of the horses
But man, these races feel like playing the lottery. Gigantic fields with no rhyme or reason to the odds and huge longshot winners everywhere. It's fun, but it'd be more fun if the ADW streaming option wasn't so terrible. Can barely see any of the horses
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Thanks for your stats as always It is interesting how the press/ racing broadcasts really play up the “Wesley Ward wins at Ascot” angle every year as the if he wins every race every year. Nice to see the evidence. 27 horses in a race is too many IMHO. Should split into 2 divisions in that case.Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:47 pm I don't know if its ever been a fairy tale. Its just been a neat story that gets attention because a US trainer consistently sends horses to Royal Ascot meet every year. Its rare that a horse ships from the US to race anywhere out of North America. He only has like a 11% win rate and 25% place rate in the UK(this is going to include other UK starts, I'm not even trying to only find Royal Ascot stats). Its not like Charlie Appleby in US races, who has a 41% win rate and 71% place rate. Ward has had success, its just really hard to ship a horse that far to run on a track that is completely different than what we have in the US. He is going to have years he doesn't win, especially when he only sent 4 horses this year.
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I think they do it cause it is a good story and he has had success. I was expecting his win % to be higher than it was before I checked it out, it was 12 wins in 102 starts in UK(from 2009-present). He has had a couple years that were really good. I just think like I said, its that its so rare for US horses to ship to Europe to race, I shouldn't have said outside of NA cause they do regularly go to Saudi and Dubai.Squeaky wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:40 pmThanks for your stats as always It is interesting how the press/ racing broadcasts really play up the “Wesley Ward wins at Ascot” angle every year as the if he wins every race every year. Nice to see the evidence. 27 horses in a race is too many IMHO. Should split into 2 divisions in that case.Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:47 pm I don't know if its ever been a fairy tale. Its just been a neat story that gets attention because a US trainer consistently sends horses to Royal Ascot meet every year. Its rare that a horse ships from the US to race anywhere out of North America. He only has like a 11% win rate and 25% place rate in the UK(this is going to include other UK starts, I'm not even trying to only find Royal Ascot stats). Its not like Charlie Appleby in US races, who has a 41% win rate and 71% place rate. Ward has had success, its just really hard to ship a horse that far to run on a track that is completely different than what we have in the US. He is going to have years he doesn't win, especially when he only sent 4 horses this year.
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Modern Games not running this week at Royal Ascot
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My Prospero was 4th and Alabama was 5th. Not too shabby for the latter.
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How large is King of Steel? 17.2 hands? 1,300 lbs.?
Because he looked like Zenyatta passing a field of ponies as he went by the other horses. That is a BIG colt.
Because he looked like Zenyatta passing a field of ponies as he went by the other horses. That is a BIG colt.