Across the pond

Post Reply
flytpthestars
Posts: 536
Joined: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:47 pm

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:06 am

It looks like he was boxed in a bit midway through the stretch
User avatar
Katewerk
Posts: 1338
Joined: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:30 pm
Location: Canada
Contact:

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:07 am

Northport wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:04 am Bay Bridge wins the Champion Stakes, Adayar 2nd, My Prospero 3rd. Baaeed a listless 4th. Im sure they’ll blame the ground. He also was farther back than usual and by the time he had clear running his wheels were spinning
He also jumped up at the break and spotted them a few lengths. But he never looked comfortable on the ground.
User avatar
HB1994
Posts: 1987
Joined: Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:26 pm

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:16 am

At least the silly Frankel comparisons will stop now.
User avatar
Squeaky
Posts: 4759
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:29 pm

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:25 am

What a day for sire New Bay 2 major Grade 1 wins in 40 min.
User avatar
Northport
Posts: 4683
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:13 pm
Location: probably near the food

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:54 am

Along with having Saffron Beach, New Bay has definitely had a banner year. He stands for $37,500 now, wouldn’t be surprised to see that get to 60,000-75,000 in 2023. Nice to see “smaller” outfit like Ballylinch have a nice young stallion.
weeeeeeeee
User avatar
Squeaky
Posts: 4759
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:29 pm

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:54 am

Shelir takes the Balmoral- I picked him in a mind bet because I thought he was such a pretty gray. Really good ride threading through a narrow seam to get the win. :D
User avatar
Mylute
Posts: 12011
Joined: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:20 pm
Location: within 30 miles of your current location and proceeding rapidly. be warned.

Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:42 pm

Northport wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:04 am Im sure they’ll blame the ground.
Winner winner, chicken dinner.
Only user to pick Rich Strike (89-1) in the 2022 Derby Pool Contest. | 2x Greatest Handicapper of All Time (2022 - 23) (2023 - 24) ✧ I kissed I'll Have Another! ✧
GreyWay
Posts: 115
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:23 pm

Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:48 pm

Baaeed's trainer said he didn't run fast enough.
But, I would like to know what happened in R4 to Inspiral as I thought the way Frankie was riding, he was going to get a hattrick.
Left at the gate.
Not sure if Franke was scratching his nose or the horse stepped back as the gates opened.
Gave away too much ground to make up.
GW
BaroqueAgain1
Posts: 15247
Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:16 pm

Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:12 pm

I hated to see Verry Elleegant end her European stay (I presume) with such a 'meh' race. :(
I believe she's a much better racehorse; you don't win the Melbourne Cup and all those other G1s if you're a 'meh' racehorse. I also thought she looked thin, and like she wasn't thriving.
IMO, moving to the Northern Hemisphere confused her internal systems. All the seasons and the sun turned backwards and upside down as far her instincts and body were concerned.
Baaeed is a very good horse. Great? Maybe not. :?
Last edited by BaroqueAgain1 on Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Northport
Posts: 4683
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:13 pm
Location: probably near the food

Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:03 pm

I think the European, and especially French, way of running races simply was the opposite of what she needed. Races that crawl for the first 10 furlongs then sprint home for the last two make no use of her high cruising speed, which is better than her turn of foot. I also think that it is kind of moot to compare European middle distance horses to Australian ones. 90-100 rated handicappers and Group 3 10-12f horses from Europe are able to move down under and mop up Group 1 races. Some of their most consistent stars lately, Zaaki and Hartnell, did just that.

Obviously she is a star regardless, but in her races against probably the consistently highest rated foreign horse she met while in Australia, Addeyebb, he beat her three of the four times. She also couldn't beat State of Rest on her own turf. Besides beating Anthony Van Dyck (a less than star Derby winner) in the Caulfield Cup, her form is a bit below that of a Group 1 European middle distance horse. Combine that with being a 7 year old mare moving to another hemisphere and changing routine and it really isn't a shock she wasn't able to hit the board.

Still love her, though. And I can't really fault connections for at least trying her over here, as it was a brave and... experimental(?) route. I think it would make the most sense to give her a nice long break and then get a cover in to Frankel on SH time. A foal like that would stay all day!
weeeeeeeee
20hayes20
Posts: 620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 3:42 am
Location: United Kingdom

Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:00 am

Inspiral went into the stalls 2nd last and was in there no more than 10 secs Frankie said when the stalls opened she planted herself and didnt want to come out and that was game over,

Emily Upjohn remains in training and the Arc will be her number 1 target next season.

Charlie Appleby will send Adayar and Modern Games to the Breeders Cup.

John Gosden will send globe trotting Mishriff for his final race at the Breeders Cup before taking up stud duties

And it looks like Alpinsta will go for the Japan Cup.

Hayes
20hayes20
Posts: 620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 3:42 am
Location: United Kingdom

Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:32 am

King Charles is to sell around 12 of the late Queens horses as he cuts the Racing Operation.

They will be auctioned at the Tattersalls sales and further sales will follow.

Charles will reduce the number of horses, but said connections between the family and the horse racing industry will continue.

Hayes
barbaro111
Posts: 1340
Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:43 pm

Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:44 am

20hayes20 wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:00 am Inspiral went into the stalls 2nd last and was in there no more than 10 secs Frankie said when the stalls opened she planted herself and didnt want to come out and that was game over,

Emily Upjohn remains in training and the Arc will be her number 1 target next season.

Charlie Appleby will send Adayar and Modern Games to the Breeders Cup.

John Gosden will send globe trotting Mishriff for his final race at the Breeders Cup before taking up stud duties

And it looks like Alpinsta will go for the Japan Cup.

Hayes
Thanks for the update!!!
User avatar
Starine
Posts: 8248
Joined: Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:39 am
Location: South Carolina

Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:42 pm

‘Quality Will Always Reign’: Leon’s Besilu Stables Program Refocused On European Industry
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... -industry/
20hayes20
Posts: 620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 3:42 am
Location: United Kingdom

Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:37 am

Baaeed half brother will be making his debut soon a colt by Nathaniel = Aghareed called Naqeeb.

Hayes
20hayes20
Posts: 620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 3:42 am
Location: United Kingdom

Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:12 am

Both Inspiral and Highfield Princess will remain in training next season.

Hayes
User avatar
Northport
Posts: 4683
Joined: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:13 pm
Location: probably near the food

Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:12 pm

Adayar will skip the Breeder's Cup but stay in training next year.
weeeeeeeee
20hayes20
Posts: 620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 3:42 am
Location: United Kingdom

Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:21 am

Caulfield Cup and Melbourne Cup winner Verry Elleegant has been retired to the paddocks she will stay in France and will be served by a European Stallion next year.

Hayes
20hayes20
Posts: 620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 3:42 am
Location: United Kingdom

Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:16 am

Connections of Saffron Beach have decided to send her for the Breeders Cup Fillies and Mares Turf

She scoped dirty after the Sun Chariot Stakes at Newmarket after beating only one home.

She will head to the December Mares Sales after this run

Hayes
20hayes20
Posts: 620
Joined: Mon May 16, 2022 3:42 am
Location: United Kingdom

Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:27 am

Adayar,s full brother Military Order got off the mark when scoring at Newmarket yesterday

Finishing 4th on debut over 7 fur he relished the extra furlong and stayed on really well beating his stable companion Ancient Rules and looks a nice prospect for next year

Hayes
Post Reply