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Squeaky wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:53 am Looking forward to these 2 Arrogate colts running on Sat 05/25 -

4C Mystic Lore - 3xWin Allowance @ Kyoto, R10 [JPN]
05/25 - 5H Ju Taro - 3xWin Allowance @ Kyoto, R10 [JPN]

Anyone know how these 2 finished?

Squeaky wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 9:53 am

Squeaky wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:53 am Looking forward to these 2 Arrogate colts running on Sat 05/25 -

4C Mystic Lore - 3xWin Allowance @ Kyoto, R10 [JPN]
05/25 - 5H Ju Taro - 3xWin Allowance @ Kyoto, R10 [JPN]

Anyone know how these 2 finished?

viewtopic.php?p=301473#p301473

and

https://en.netkeiba.com/race/race_resul ... 2408031110

tachyon wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 10:24 am

Squeaky wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 9:53 am

Squeaky wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:53 am Looking forward to these 2 Arrogate colts running on Sat 05/25 -

4C Mystic Lore - 3xWin Allowance @ Kyoto, R10 [JPN]
05/25 - 5H Ju Taro - 3xWin Allowance @ Kyoto, R10 [JPN]

Anyone know how these 2 finished?

viewtopic.php?p=301473#p301473

and

https://en.netkeiba.com/race/race_resul ... 2408031110

Thanks!

Love seeing Epiphaneia get another top-level winner. He was bred to be a top level stallion and so far he hasn't disappointed.

Starine wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 8:17 pm Love seeing Epiphaneia get another top-level winner. He was bred to be a top level stallion and so far he hasn't disappointed.

Yeah, Epiphaneia(JPN) has already sired six individual G1 winners including the 2021 Horse of the Year Efforia(JPN) and the 2020 Triple Tiara winner Daring Tact(JPN).
And I'm looking forward to seeing Epiphaneia's 2yos who are out of the better group of broodmares he got after his success in 2020 and 2021.
Also, it's really nice to see the great Cesario(JPN) increase her own influence in the Japanese breeding.
Her younger sons Leontes(JPN)(King Kamehameha) became a G1 sire recently and Saturnalia(JPN)(Lord Kanaloa) is going to be the most-watched first-season sire this year.

Of other pedigree notes, Danon Decile(JPN) became the first Japanese Derby winner for the Roberto sire-line.
Cograts(USA) may become the Broodmare-Sire of the Year for Japan, as he is represented by Danon Decile(JPN) and Forever Young(JPN)(Real Steel).

How was the son of A.P. Indy(USA) doing at stud in the US?

tachyon wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:51 am Of other pedigree notes, Danon Decile(JPN) became the first Japanese Derby winner for the Roberto sire-line.
Cograts(USA) may become the Broodmare-Sire of the Year for Japan, as he is represented by Danon Decile(JPN) and Forever Young(JPN)(Real Steel).

How was the son of A.P. Indy(USA) doing at stud in the US?

That's interesting that Danon Decile is the first Japanese winner for the Roberto sire line. You would have thought there would have been one already. The Roberto sire line is my favorite; I love the dynasty he sired between Kris S., Dynaformer, Lear Fan, Real Shadai, Brian's Time and others.

As for Congrats, he had modest success as a stallion in the US. His top earners were dirt sprinter Bango, grade I winner Turbulent Descent, grade II winners Pat on the Back and Harvey Wallbanger, etc. I don't have the stats for him as a broodmare sire though maybe Flanders or another poster can supply them.

Starine wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:49 pm

tachyon wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:51 am Of other pedigree notes, Danon Decile(JPN) became the first Japanese Derby winner for the Roberto sire-line.
Cograts(USA) may become the Broodmare-Sire of the Year for Japan, as he is represented by Danon Decile(JPN) and Forever Young(JPN)(Real Steel).

How was the son of A.P. Indy(USA) doing at stud in the US?

That's interesting that Danon Decile is the first Japanese winner for the Roberto sire line. You would have thought there would have been one already. The Roberto sire line is my favorite; I love the dynasty he sired between Kris S., Dynaformer, Lear Fan, Real Shadai, Brian's Time and others.

As for Congrats, he had modest success as a stallion in the US. His top earners were dirt sprinter Bango, grade I winner Turbulent Descent, grade II winners Pat on the Back and Harvey Wallbanger, etc. I don't have the stats for him as a broodmare sire though maybe Flanders or another poster can supply them.

Congrats is the sire of 326 dams of 1027 named foals of racing age, 638 rnrs (62%), 401 wnrs (39%), 115 2yo wnrs (11%), 1.22 AEI, 1.38 CI; 23 sw, Leading Earner: Forever Young ($2,777,458).

I think shin emperor could have won this, or at least run 2nd, to my eye jockey seemed to be holding him. Always a subjective view though.

I still thoroughly enjoyed seeing a 56 yo jockey, who had already won this 2x, win on a horse who had not raced since January and had not won more than a G3, and who had one of the lowest RPRs in the field. Because it was a masterful ride. And was happy for bettors who got 76 to 1.

Reminder that horses cannot be reduced to just numbers. The crowd was ecstatic, much happiness for jockey, spectators, bettors who had him, i thought it was quite moving hearing the cheering from the crowd for the jockey....almost symphonic.

They left the rail open. Seeing that mistake a lot lately it seems.

Thanks, brunanas. Interesting to think that a horse like Congrats might leave his biggest mark in a country like Japan, given his pedigree.

brunanas wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 9:19 pm

Starine wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:49 pm

tachyon wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:51 am Of other pedigree notes, Danon Decile(JPN) became the first Japanese Derby winner for the Roberto sire-line.
Cograts(USA) may become the Broodmare-Sire of the Year for Japan, as he is represented by Danon Decile(JPN) and Forever Young(JPN)(Real Steel).

How was the son of A.P. Indy(USA) doing at stud in the US?

That's interesting that Danon Decile is the first Japanese winner for the Roberto sire line. You would have thought there would have been one already. The Roberto sire line is my favorite; I love the dynasty he sired between Kris S., Dynaformer, Lear Fan, Real Shadai, Brian's Time and others.

As for Congrats, he had modest success as a stallion in the US. His top earners were dirt sprinter Bango, grade I winner Turbulent Descent, grade II winners Pat on the Back and Harvey Wallbanger, etc. I don't have the stats for him as a broodmare sire though maybe Flanders or another poster can supply them.

Congrats is the sire of 326 dams of 1027 named foals of racing age, 638 rnrs (62%), 401 wnrs (39%), 115 2yo wnrs (11%), 1.22 AEI, 1.38 CI; 23 sw, Leading Earner: Forever Young ($2,777,458).

Thank you.
I will not be surprised if Japanese buyers bid up for Congrats mares in the US soon.

tachyon wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 8:57 am

brunanas wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 9:19 pm

Starine wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 7:49 pm

That's interesting that Danon Decile is the first Japanese winner for the Roberto sire line. You would have thought there would have been one already. The Roberto sire line is my favorite; I love the dynasty he sired between Kris S., Dynaformer, Lear Fan, Real Shadai, Brian's Time and others.

As for Congrats, he had modest success as a stallion in the US. His top earners were dirt sprinter Bango, grade I winner Turbulent Descent, grade II winners Pat on the Back and Harvey Wallbanger, etc. I don't have the stats for him as a broodmare sire though maybe Flanders or another poster can supply them.

Congrats is the sire of 326 dams of 1027 named foals of racing age, 638 rnrs (62%), 401 wnrs (39%), 115 2yo wnrs (11%), 1.22 AEI, 1.38 CI; 23 sw, Leading Earner: Forever Young ($2,777,458).

Thank you.
I will not be surprised if Japanese buyers bid up for Congrats mares in the US soon.

His best 2 in the US : Caravel and Shedaresthedevil

tachyon wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:51 am Of other pedigree notes, Danon Decile(JPN) became the first Japanese Derby winner for the Roberto sire-line.
Cograts(USA) may become the Broodmare-Sire of the Year for Japan, as he is represented by Danon Decile(JPN) and Forever Young(JPN)(Real Steel).

Wait. I asked Graham Pavey on Twitter and he pointed out Narita Brian.

Starine wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 7:41 pm

tachyon wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:51 am Of other pedigree notes, Danon Decile(JPN) became the first Japanese Derby winner for the Roberto sire-line.
Cograts(USA) may become the Broodmare-Sire of the Year for Japan, as he is represented by Danon Decile(JPN) and Forever Young(JPN)(Real Steel).

Wait. I asked Graham Pavey on Twitter and he pointed out Narita Brian.

Brian's Time had more winners including Tanino Gimlet who sired Vodka who won the race as well.

Oh My Bad!!!

I apologize for my mistake.
How could I forget about our great Triple Crown winner and his sire’s descendants?
Danon Decile has just been the first Japanese Derby winner from the Roberto line since the race obtained International G1 status in 2010.

TOKYO 11R
THE YASUDA KINEN(G1)

June 2, 2024, 1600m, Turf, Post time 15:40
INT DSN, Special Weight, 3-Year-Olds & Up, Open Class, Value of race: 347,400,000 Yen



-- from JRA Official Youtube Channel
2024 Yasuda Kinen (G1) Training Video | JRA Official [ENG sub]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFRg-HPU4fs

[Time stamp]
0:00 Opening
0:11 Catedral
0:48 Gaia Force
1:26 Red Mon Reve
2:03 Geoglyph
2:40 Namur
3:18 Dobune
3:55 Romantic Warrior
4:33 Air Lolonois
5:11 Parallel Vision
5:48 Soul Rush
6:26 Win Carnelian
7:04 Fierce Pride
7:42 Stella Veloce
8:18 Corepetiteur
8:56 Voyage Bubble
9:33 Elton Barows
10:10 Serifos
10:48 Danon Scorpion

so many faves and the hong kong invaders look interesting, but i'm gonna pull for soul rush this time... no particular reason except i'd love him to get his G1 (and for his trainer) and he's a very handsome pony

-- from bloodhorse (by Bob Kieckhefer)

''Romantic Warrior Eyes Fifth Straight G1 in Yasuda Kinen''

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... suda-kinen



Is he going to be the fourth foreign horse to win the Yasuda Kinen since Bullish Luck in 2006?
Good news could be that the weather forecast says it will rain tomorrow in Tokyo.

Yasuda Kinen win odds this morning



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#JRA Yasuda Kinen (G1, 15:40, June 2) https://japanracing.jp/en/horsemen/yasuda_kinen/
Barrier Draw https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240531.html
http://japanracing.jp/en/racing/result/
Preview https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240528.html
Comments https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240531-03.html
Data Analysis
https://japanracing.jp/_news2024/240527.html
Programme https://japanracing.jp/en/racing/result ... /2024.html

I hope that Soul Rush captures his first G1 title here.
I like Hong Kong raiders, too!

Which horse is the better swimmer?
It is raining...a lot. When one of those sandy Japanese tracks is actually muddy, it's really soaked.
I haven't heard a rating for the turf, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were Heavy 8-10.

Fortunately it has stopped raining now and turf condition will not be catastrophic.
Hong Kong horses may welcome this type of going.
Soul Rush is thought to handle the wet.
Good luck!