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Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:15 pm
by brunanas
when i started reading i thought you were going to say they'd give him a break and regroup. but that's a big ask for Lukas. oh well...
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:23 pm
by Squeaky
brunanas wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:15 pm
when i started reading i thought you were going to say they'd give him a break and regroup. but that's a big ask for Lukas. oh well...
Was hoping he could get some farm time then train at SAR and aim for a listed stakes or allowance race there. But that is a pipe dream.
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:58 pm
by brunanas
who shall be the cursed one to get post 17?
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:15 pm
by Tessablue
A bunch of veterinary and policy changes announced for Churchill this week. Too many to list, see here:
https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/ ... ic-sensors
Some highlights:
HIWU will conduct out-of-competition blood and hair samples of horses competing in the Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks as well as undercard races before entries are taken and will be sent to an HIWU certified laboratory for immediate testing. Other jurisdictions will also obtain out-of-competition samples on behalf of HISA/HIWU from horses that are not stabled in Kentucky.
Veterinarians shall not have contact with an entered horse within 24 hours of post time unless approved by the regulatory veterinarian.
No medications are permitted within 48 hours of the race. In the event of a medical emergency, the Stewards will authorize treatment and the horse will be scratched.
Any owner or trainer previously stabled at a CDI track who sells or transports a horse for purposes of slaughter will have stalls permanently revoked at all CDI properties.
Implemented Technology: As an industry leader, Churchill Downs is investing in new technologies to help identify horses that may pose an increased risk potential. This allows for early veterinary intervention in an effort to diagnose and treat the horse before serious injury occurs. As a result, all starters will wear StrideSAFE biometric sensor technology to detect changes in a horse’s gait to help identify inconsistencies or early warning signs of possible developing injury. Additionally, Churchill Downs has partnered with Hagyard Equine Medical Institute to provide an on-site Positron Emission Tomography (“PET”) unit. This cutting edge diagnostic imaging unit is only the second PET machine permanently located at a racetrack in the United States.
Really good stuff. Excited about the PET scanner and seeing StrideSAFE in action.
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:22 pm
by Tessablue
Oaks field:
1. Tapit Jenallie
2. Gin Gin
3. Where's my Ring
4. Regulatory Risk
5. Thorpedo Anna
6. Lemon Muffin
7. Fiona's Magic
8. Tarifa
9. Everland
10. Into Champagne
11. Ways and Means
12. Power Squeuze
13. Just FYI
14. Leslie's Rose
It's neat that they are holding the draw in the paddock, but the timing is pretty odd. Hopefully they don't rush through the Derby draw as much, I always enjoy the little story blurbs and interviews.
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:26 pm
by Tessablue
Dornoch post 1 [yikes emoji]
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:29 pm
by Tessablue
Derby field:
1. Dornoch
5. Catalytic
11. Forever Young
12. Track Phantom
18. Stronghold
AE: Epic Ride
AE: Mugatu
And the stream has frozen, so that's all we're getting lol
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:36 pm
by Tessablue
Found a different stream by the Courier Journal, but way too late to catch up. Churchill needs to get its broadcasting act together, the works show has been terrible as well.
Fierceness just drew #17, probably a good draw but need to see who's on either side of him.
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:37 pm
by brunanas
Mike Repole rn
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:41 pm
by Tessablue
17 is a lot better than drawing inside the other speed... no doubt that Dornoch will blitz for it with that draw, and there will be others up there with him. Fierceness should be able to stay outside of the scrum, which is what he needs to do.
Hopefully the paddock experiment was a one-off, because that was something of a disaster. Oh well.
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:42 pm
by CoronadosQuest
I, personally, really like Post 11 for Forever Young.
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:46 pm
by tachyon
CoronadosQuest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:42 pm
I, personally, really like Post 11 for Forever Young.
That's one of the best posts for him, in my opinion.
I didn't want him to go from inner posts.
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:46 pm
by Squeaky
CoronadosQuest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:42 pm
I, personally, really like Post 11 for Forever Young.
Yes he really has a good chance if he can handle the kickback and huge field, noise, circus atmosphere etc. .
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:50 pm
by CoronadosQuest
tachyon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:46 pm
CoronadosQuest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:42 pm
I, personally, really like Post 11 for Forever Young.
That's one of the best posts for him, in my opinion.
I didn't want him to go from inner posts.
If you like it, that makes me even happier about his chances. GO FOREVER YOUNG!
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:52 pm
by Mylute
Not me starting bawling and "crying in the club" (driving home from work) when they started talking about Stronghold's mom
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:14 pm
by brunanas
POST POSITION STATS
#1 DORNOCH
– 8,5% win (8 in 94);
– no winner since Ferdinand (1986);
#2 SIERRA LEONE
– 7,4% win (7 in 94);
– no winner since Affirmed (1978);
#3 MYSTIK DAN
– 5,3% win (5 in 94);
– no winner since Real Quiet (1998);
#4 CATCHING FREEDOM
– 5,3% win (5 in 94);
– no winner since Super Saver (2010);
#5 CATALYTIC
– 10,6% win (10 in 94);
– winningest position, last winner was Always Dreaming (2017);
#6 JUST STEEL
– 2,1% win (2 in 94);
– no winner since Sea Hero (1993);
#7 HONOR MARIE
– 8,6% win (8 in 93);
– no winner since Justify (2018);
#8 JUST A TOUCH
– 9,7% win (9 in 93);
– Mage won from this position last year;
#9 ENCINO
– 7,4% win (4 in 90);
– no winner since Riva Ridge (1972);
#10 T O PASSWORD (JPN)
– 10,3% win (9 in 87);
– no winner since Giacomo (2005);
#11 FOREVER YOUNG (JPN)
– 2,4% win (2 in 83);
– no winner since Winning Colors (1988);
#12 TRACK PHANTOM
– 3,8% win (3 in 79);
– no winner since Canonero II (1971);
#13 WEST SARATOGA
– 6,5% win (5 in 77);
– no winner since Nyquist (2016);
#14 ENDLESSLY
– 3% win (2 in 67);
– no winner since Carry Back (1961);
#15 DOMESTIC PRODUCT
– 9,7% win (6 in 62);
– no winner since Authentic (2020);
#16 GRAND MO THE FIRST
– 7,8% win (4 in 51);
– no winner since Animal Kingdom (2011);
#17 FIERCENESS
– 0% win (44 attempts);
#18 STRONGHOLD
– 5,6% win (2 in 36);
– no winner since Country House (2019);
if you want winners who crossed the wire first, last was Gato Del Sol (1982);
#19 RESILIENCE
– 3,3% win (1 in 30);
– no winner since I'll Have Another (2012);
#20 SOCIETY MAN
– 11,1% win (2 in 18);
– Rich Strike's post in 2022.
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:09 pm
by Mylute
Immediately following Dornoch getting post 1 is a description in which Gargan said (paraphrase) "yeah we need to keep him out of the inside."
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:12 pm
by brunanas
i'm so tired i missed the actual quote and thought he had just said "wa wa wa"
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:11 pm
by barbaro111
Mylute wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:52 pm
Not me starting bawling and "crying in the club" (driving home from work) when they started talking about Stronghold's mom
A very touching story! I will be rooting for Stronghold!
Re: 150TH KENTUCKY DERBY
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:14 pm
by Slewfan2
I love the 7 for Honor Marie
