Horse Racing Forum - USA Thoroughbred Races

Curtis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:38 pm

Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:49 pm Very confused by people saying that Gaffalione purposefully interfered with Sierra Leone... Protective dropped a horse in the Wood Memorial, and he is historically known to be erratic in the stretch. Seems a very odd narrative, unless Tyler is known to have a vengeful streak...?

Prat gave Sierra Leone pretty much the exact ride that Tyler would have, there just isn't any fixing that stride and he's going to lose races he should otherwise win because of his runstyle. Very good horse, but it is what it is.

People………giving specious information……….on the internet………..? I’m shocked and dismayed.

Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:04 pm I literally don't know anything about her.

Finally caught the head-on and Sierra Leone didn't lug in quite as badly as he has in the past, though he did still interfere with three horses in the stretch (certainly gave Protective a bit more than he got). He did respond quite willingly to Prat tugging him outside in the last eighth, but I really do think the problem is mechanical. And Mindframe broke straight; it was Sierra Leone who broke out and caused the contact, pinging back from Mindframe onto Honor Marie. So odd; Sierra Leone really didn't need any excuses in there. He ran well, as he does, and others ran well also.

Mindframe definitely drifted out because of Irad's left-hand whip, not sure if he would have gotten there had he run straight, but it sure didn't help. Really quite amazed by the race he ran in this third(!!) start. Bright future ahead of him, like with many of these.

Curtis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:24 pm

Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:04 pm I literally don't know anything about her.

Finally caught the head-on and Sierra Leone didn't lug in quite as badly as he has in the past, though he did still interfere with three horses in the stretch (certainly gave Protective a bit more than he got). He did respond quite willingly to Prat tugging him outside in the last eighth, but I really do think the problem is mechanical. And Mindframe broke straight; it was Sierra Leone who broke out and caused the contact, pinging back from Mindframe onto Honor Marie. So odd; Sierra Leone really didn't need any excuses in there. He ran well, as he does, and others ran well also.

Mindframe definitely drifted out because of Irad's left-hand whip, not sure if he would have gotten there had he run straight, but it sure didn't help. Really quite amazed by the race he ran in this third(!!) start. Bright future ahead of him, like with many of these.

She used to work for XBTV was fired for cause and now is back with the Santa Anita broadcast crew. A lot of the stuff you hear at the track is similar to what comes out of the end that kicks. I have found Muck Boots are needed when hearing Ms. Yu’s reporting.

mariasmon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:48 pm

Curtis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:24 pm

Tessablue wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:04 pm I literally don't know anything about her.

Finally caught the head-on and Sierra Leone didn't lug in quite as badly as he has in the past, though he did still interfere with three horses in the stretch (certainly gave Protective a bit more than he got). He did respond quite willingly to Prat tugging him outside in the last eighth, but I really do think the problem is mechanical. And Mindframe broke straight; it was Sierra Leone who broke out and caused the contact, pinging back from Mindframe onto Honor Marie. So odd; Sierra Leone really didn't need any excuses in there. He ran well, as he does, and others ran well also.

Mindframe definitely drifted out because of Irad's left-hand whip, not sure if he would have gotten there had he run straight, but it sure didn't help. Really quite amazed by the race he ran in this third(!!) start. Bright future ahead of him, like with many of these.

She used to work for XBTV was fired for cause and now is back with the Santa Anita broadcast crew. A lot of the stuff you hear at the track is similar to what comes out of the end that kicks. I have found Muck Boots are needed when hearing Ms. Yu’s reporting.

What did she do to get fired?

HB1994 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:13 pm

CoronadosQuest wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:05 pm Also how awesome is it that Good Magic got a Kentucky Derby winner in his first crop and a Belmont Stakes winner in his second crop?

To be fair, they’re out of the same dam, so she deserves at least 50% of the credit.

MySaladDays wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:45 am

HB1994 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:13 pm

CoronadosQuest wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:05 pm Also how awesome is it that Good Magic got a Kentucky Derby winner in his first crop and a Belmont Stakes winner in his second crop?

To be fair, they’re out of the same dam, so she deserves at least 50% of the credit.

Dornoch and Mage have Summer Squall, sire of their 3rd dam. And dornoch has double copy mare secretariats daughter weekend surprise up close...very classy pedigree.

I was a d fan from the beginning, played hinm in every race, was not getting off so i had dornoch (posted 3 places) as i am a big brown and puca fan..he had nightmare trip in ky derby and in bluegrass didnt let him run. Finally he is turnrned loose and he did battle with both stg then mindframe. Gargan did a beautiful job. Saez did great by the horse, too. I was so happy for the connections. I dont bet large so no huge benefit to me

As for sierra leone, love that horse, but he needs to be at farm, retraining + spa type and get himself staightened out. Mentally, psychologically too. I remember listening to Art Sherman explaining horses drifting and not running straight, he was very instructive explaining it.

Excuse for new jock was that former jock couldnt handle him.... well this new jock cant either. Right now SL could be dangerous out on a track...

I do hope his mouth is okay...that harsher bit was a hail mary...sl really needs some TIME and work. He deserves it and hope he gets it.

BaroqueAgain1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:06 pm She also worked for TVG....and I heard that she was also let go 'for cause.'
Some of those 'causes' were pretty public, as she made remarks or expressed opinions while on air that were...um...not exactly PC. Like saying that a certain trainer of Asian heritage was doing pretty good 'for a dry cleaner.'
Or that female jockeys weren't ever as good as males. That opinion might not look so eye-rolling if it weren't for the fact that, at the time, she was dating a trainer and hammering him to stop using a female rider who had been winning for him....because she was a former girlfriend. Using your professional position as an on-air analyst to publicly grind a very personal ax is not, imo, professional behavior. To say nothing about how troubling it was to hear a FEMALE analyst happily trying to throw other women in racing under the bus.
She got reprimanded, but not let go.
Then (and I admit this was second-hand, but from a source I believed) she was on assignment at the track (think it was Hollywood), she LEFT without finishing her work.
Soon after, she was no longer working for TVG.
I was surprised when she started showing up on the Fox racing coverage. Maybe she has redeemed herself with more (much more, I hope) professional behavior, but I'm not much of a fan.

stark wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:07 pm

djnorth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:04 pm

MySaladDays wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 8:26 pm

Part of that moniker is the big sandy and wide sweeping turns at Belmont and doing it at 12F.

None of which applies to a shortened race on the completely diff. SAR track however.

Actually Saratoga is the "Graveyard of Favorites." See Man o' War, Secretariat, American Pharoah, et al.

https://www.saratogaracetrack.com/about ... champions/

mariasmon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:57 am

MySaladDays wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:45 am

HB1994 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:13 pm

To be fair, they’re out of the same dam, so she deserves at least 50% of the credit.

Dornoch and Mage have Summer Squall, sire of their 3rd dam. And dornoch has double copy mare secretariats daughter weekend surprise up close...very classy pedigree.

I was a d fan from the beginning, played hinm in every race, was not getting off so i had dornoch (posted 3 places) as i am a big brown and puca fan..he had nightmare trip in ky derby and in bluegrass didnt let him run. Finally he is turnrned loose and he did battle with both stg then mindframe. Gargan did a beautiful job. Saez did great by the horse, too. I was so happy for the connections. I dont bet large so no huge benefit to me

As for sierra leone, love that horse, but he needs to be at farm, retraining + spa type and get himself staightened out. Mentally, psychologically too. I remember listening to Art Sherman explaining horses drifting and not running straight, he was very instructive explaining it.

Excuse for new jock was that former jock couldnt handle him.... well this new jock cant either. Right now SL could be dangerous out on a track...

I do hope his mouth is okay...that harsher bit was a hail mary...sl really needs some TIME and work. He deserves it and hope he gets it.

Agree with everything you said here. I should've bet Dornoch, because I knew full well he hated being rated in the Blue Grass and was screwed from the 1 hole in the Derby.

Sierra Leone needs to go to boot camp. That $hit's dangerous.

TapitsGal wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:28 am I saw someone on one of the racing articles comments section say that Seize the Grey was clearly entered as a rabbit for dornoch. I just shook my head. They aren't even trained by the same people. Seize the Grey was on his FOURTH race in eleven weeks and was TIRED. After the Preakness win people were really pushing for him to skip the Belmont and target the Jim dandy or Travers. But I knew because it's lukas..that wasn't happening. At least he will get a short rest now while his next race is chosen

Mylute wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:50 am Let's talk about how that one guy (don't know the name just the voice) called Dornoch a filly after the race