2024 Three Year Olds

[Izvestia]

I would argue we haven’t yet seen the best of the crop, or they are under our radar. At this point last year - was Archangelo on anyone’s list?!?!?

[Curtis]

I would argue we haven’t yet seen the best of the crop, or they are under our radar. At this point last year - was Archangelo on anyone’s list?!?!?

Well yeah, without watching every workout, it’s hard to know. All I can do is work with what I’ve seen. However, I hear tell there’s always one in the Baffert barn that hasn’t been in yet that is the best of them all. I used to take that with a grain of salt. I’ve since bought stock in Morton’s.

[Starine]

Hades --> Florida Derby
Fierceness --> Florida Derby
Real Macho --> Fountain of Youth
Uncle Heavy --> Wood Memorial
Mystik Dan --> Arkansas Derby
Liberal Arts --> Arkansas Derby or Blue Grass
Just Steel --> Rebel

[Missbeholder]

Fierceness had a far worse trip than the winner, who could not have had an easier time of it, but he really should have been good enough there. Sometimes horses run hot-and-cold at Gulfstream, but he seems to be a horse who really needs things to go his way.

Pletcher wasn't afraid to say they were "disappointed in the outcome". His comments come toward the very end of the article.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -holy-bull

[Izvestia]

I would argue we haven’t yet seen the best of the crop, or they are under our radar. At this point last year - was Archangelo on anyone’s list?!?!?

Well yeah, without watching every workout, it’s hard to know. All I can do is work with what I’ve seen. However, I hear tell there’s always one in the Baffert barn that hasn’t been in yet that is the best of them all. I used to take that with a grain of salt. I’ve since bought stock in Morton’s.

We kind of put stock in the Derby winner being the “one”, but lately it’s just been the horse who ran best/had the best trip that day. It’s still fun to follow up to the race, but I am more excited about the Travers and when they face the older boys.

[Curtis]

I would argue we haven’t yet seen the best of the crop, or they are under our radar. At this point last year - was Archangelo on anyone’s list?!?!?

Well yeah, without watching every workout, it’s hard to know. All I can do is work with what I’ve seen. However, I hear tell there’s always one in the Baffert barn that hasn’t been in yet that is the best of them all. I used to take that with a grain of salt. I’ve since bought stock in Morton’s.

We kind of put stock in the Derby winner being the “one”, but lately it’s just been the horse who ran best/had the best trip that day. It’s still fun to follow up to the race, but I am more excited about the Travers and when they face the older boys.

Face the older boys……You mean the Breeder’s Cup Classic? I guess the Pacific Classic had a couple of 3yo’s.

[Diver52]

I would argue we haven’t yet seen the best of the crop, or they are under our radar. At this point last year - was Archangelo on anyone’s list?!?!?

Well yeah, without watching every workout, it’s hard to know. All I can do is work with what I’ve seen. However, I hear tell there’s always one in the Baffert barn that hasn’t been in yet that is the best of them all. I used to take that with a grain of salt. I’ve since bought stock in Morton’s.

I think that one this year was Maymun. And what happened to Prince of Monaco since his no-show in the BCJ?

[Squeaky]

Good question. Winterfell, unraced Arrogate colt, is another Baffert horse generating some buzz. And what happened to Heartland? They do tend to fall by the wayside, don’t they?

[Mylute]

I'm kinda surprised that the name Hades wasn't already taken by a horse from the 20th century and/or is on the protected list.

They do tend to fall by the wayside, don’t they?

Shhh we aren't supposed to point this out.

[Eohippus]

I would argue we haven’t yet seen the best of the crop, or they are under our radar. At this point last year - was Archangelo on anyone’s list?!?!?

Well yeah, without watching every workout, it’s hard to know. All I can do is work with what I’ve seen. However, I hear tell there’s always one in the Baffert barn that hasn’t been in yet that is the best of them all. I used to take that with a grain of salt. I’ve since bought stock in Morton’s.

We kind of put stock in the Derby winner being the “one”, but lately it’s just been the horse who ran best/had the best trip that day. It’s still fun to follow up to the race, but I am more excited about the Travers and when they face the older boys.

Or how develop as four year olds, but nowadays it’s to the shed before they risk losing a race

[Diver52]

I'm kinda surprised that the name Hades wasn't already taken by a horse from the 20th century and/or is on the protected list.

They do tend to fall by the wayside, don’t they?

Shhh we aren't supposed to point this out.

It's fair to point it out, but it isn't quite as fair to act as if no other trainer has had a maiden winner disappear.

[Squeaky]

More of a general statement about the fragility of horses now vs specifically about Bob

[Izvestia]

The thing is - if you let them develop, you could get a Gun Runner or White Abarrio!!! Both solid 3-year-olds, maybe not the best at 3 but not terrible, but developed into fabulous older horses.

On the flip side - the best 2-year-olds don’t always develop past 2 to 3. Depends on so many things. Some trainers have a knack for longevity, and developing horses at their own pace. It also depends on ownership.

[Danniwolfe]

105 BSF for Nysos
101 BSF for Mystik Dan
85 BSF for Hades
84 BSF for Uncle Heavy
84 BSF for First World War

Hades has been raised to 90

[Flanders]

More of a general statement about the fragility of horses now vs specifically about Bob

I don't think its any different now. There have always been hype horses that don't pan out, horses that get injured on the Derby trail, horses that don't improve from 2 to 3, etc. Its all trainers too. Some of the things that changed are EVERYONE wants to go to the Derby(past 20 years) and the points system forces horses to have to run in certain races vs just Graded earnings from any Graded/Group Stakes.

[Squeaky]

He has a very rigorous training program and some just can’t make it through. Will be interesting to see the latest crop of Avenger 2 year olds they are posting on Twitter to see how many make it to race successfully.

[CoronadosQuest]

Good question. Winterfell, unraced Arrogate colt, is another Baffert horse generating some buzz. And what happened to Heartland? They do tend to fall by the wayside, don’t they?

He was injured and sent to WinStar so he may still be there.

[brunanas]

Parchment Party (Constitution), who is undefeated in 2 starts, has been ruled off the Derby trail and sent to the farm to mature per Bill Mott. supposed to be there for 60 days.

https://twitter.com/PinOakStud/status/1 ... DHyug&s=19

Parchment Party being given time at farm to mature
https://www.drf.com/news/parchment-part ... arm-mature

[Squeaky]

Parchment Party (Constitution), who is undefeated in 2 starts, has been ruled off the Derby trail and sent to the farm to mature per Bill Mott. supposed to be there for 60 days.

https://twitter.com/PinOakStud/status/1 ... DHyug&s=19

Parchment Party being given time at farm to mature
https://www.drf.com/news/parchment-part ... arm-mature

Another way of saying “ bone bruising” or other minor injury-now say he needs to mature ”. Transparency please!

[Diver52]

Parchment Party (Constitution), who is undefeated in 2 starts, has been ruled off the Derby trail and sent to the farm to mature per Bill Mott. supposed to be there for 60 days.

https://twitter.com/PinOakStud/status/1 ... DHyug&s=19

Parchment Party being given time at farm to mature
https://www.drf.com/news/parchment-part ... arm-mature

Another way of saying “ bone bruising” or other minor injury-now say he needs to mature ”. Transparency please!

Well, it' really none of our business.