2023 Japanese Racing

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Northport
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Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:21 pm

Panthalassa was cooked trying to get to the lead in the first quarter. But still nice to see another Japanese horse grind home for the win.

I really hope Japan can win some summer/autumn prizes in Europe and America. I know they had a great BC21 and Deidre won the Nassau in 2021, but a Japanese winner at Royal Ascot, or in the King George/Eclipse/International would be a treat. A Japanese horse at Saratoga would be super interesting too. Our older horse division is pretty bare, they could scoop some nice races (even if the American prize money is less than what they have at home).
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Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:37 pm

Ushba Tesoro(JPN)(Orfevre), 2023 DWC winner, is likely to run in the Arc at Longchamp later this year.
He is going to be the first Japan-based ''dirt specialist'' to run in the biggest race in Europe!!
Will he handle the soft turf at Longchamp?
There's been a speculation among the racing community in Japan that the best dirt horse could handle better the bottomless going at Longchamp than Japanese turf specialists.
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Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:07 pm

tachyon wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:37 pm Ushba Tesoro(JPN)(Orfevre), 2023 DWC winner, is likely to run in the Arc at Longchamp later this year.
He is going to be the first Japan-based ''dirt specialist'' to run in the biggest race in Europe!!
Will he handle the soft turf at Longchamp?
There's been a speculation among the racing community in Japan that the best dirt horse could handle better the bottomless going at Longchamp than Japanese turf specialists.
That would be fun! I hope they send equinox to the us for the breeders cup and ushba for the arc. That would be amazing if they get both.
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Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:08 pm

Is there anyone in the us who could eat equinox? What about Europe? I haven't seen a horse win that easily before. Of course there's been easy winners but not THAT easy. Who breaks a track record while being wrapped up?
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Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:17 pm

I'd like to see Do Deuce vs. Equinox, but the fact that they didn't even enter Do Deuce in the Sheema Classic and opted for the Dubai Turf made it look like they knew Equinox was a monster.

The top European middle distance horses slated to race on in 2023 can't seem to stay sound enough to have full campaigns to know if they are bonafide superstars - Desert Crown, Adayar, Luxembourg, Hukum, Pyledriver, Hurricane Lane, etc. It seems to me like the best 12f horses are already in Equinox's backyard.
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Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:34 pm

Northport wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:17 pm I'd like to see Do Deuce vs. Equinox, but the fact that they didn't even enter Do Deuce in the Sheema Classic and opted for the Dubai Turf made it look like they knew Equinox was a monster.

The top European middle distance horses slated to race on in 2023 can't seem to stay sound enough to have full campaigns to know if they are bonafide superstars - Desert Crown, Adayar, Luxembourg, Hukum, Pyledriver, Hurricane Lane, etc. It seems to me like the best 12f horses are already in Equinox's backyard.
So it'll be his race to lose if he comes here? I would love to see him have a fun gallop.
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Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:10 pm

SukiSatsuki wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:34 pm
Northport wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:17 pm I'd like to see Do Deuce vs. Equinox, but the fact that they didn't even enter Do Deuce in the Sheema Classic and opted for the Dubai Turf made it look like they knew Equinox was a monster.

The top European middle distance horses slated to race on in 2023 can't seem to stay sound enough to have full campaigns to know if they are bonafide superstars - Desert Crown, Adayar, Luxembourg, Hukum, Pyledriver, Hurricane Lane, etc. It seems to me like the best 12f horses are already in Equinox's backyard.
So it'll be his race to lose if he comes here? I would love to see him have a fun gallop.
Depends if any good 3yos come out of the middle distance classics this year. Deep Impact was beaten in his Arc by a 3yo (before his subsequent disqualification). Also, 3yo fillies get a big weight advantage in the Arc and have done well.
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Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:54 pm

HB1994 wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:10 pm
SukiSatsuki wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:34 pm
Northport wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:17 pm I'd like to see Do Deuce vs. Equinox, but the fact that they didn't even enter Do Deuce in the Sheema Classic and opted for the Dubai Turf made it look like they knew Equinox was a monster.

The top European middle distance horses slated to race on in 2023 can't seem to stay sound enough to have full campaigns to know if they are bonafide superstars - Desert Crown, Adayar, Luxembourg, Hukum, Pyledriver, Hurricane Lane, etc. It seems to me like the best 12f horses are already in Equinox's backyard.
So it'll be his race to lose if he comes here? I would love to see him have a fun gallop.
Depends if any good 3yos come out of the middle distance classics this year. Deep Impact was beaten in his Arc by a 3yo (before his subsequent disqualification). Also, 3yo fillies get a big weight advantage in the Arc and have done well.
I don't think he'll be running in the arc.
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Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:38 am

First Force(JPN), 2016H. Lord Kanaloa(JPN) x Rush Life(JPN) by Sakura Bakushin O(JPN), won his first G1 title in the Takamatsunomiya Kinen 1200m turf at Chukyo on March 26th 2023 emulating his sire who had won this event in 2013.
Jockey Taisei Danno got his first G1, too.

https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001216121/
29: 7-5-1

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-- replay (English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOJ1azVtjuQ
1st 13 First Force(JPN) [Lord Kanaloa(JPN) x Rush Life(JPN) by Sakura Bakushin O(JPN)] H7 58 01:11.5
2nd 15 Namura Clair(JPN) [Mikki Isle(JPN) x Sun Queen(USA) by Storm Cat(USA)] F4 56 01:11.6 1
3rd 1 Travesura(JPN) [Dream Journey(JPN) x Jaja Machan(JPN) by Admire Cozeen(JPN)] H8 58 01:11.7 1/2
4th 6 Naran Huleg(JPN) H7 58 01:11.8 1/2
5th 16 Grenadier Guards(JPN) H5 58 01:12.0 3/4
6th 8 Lotus Land(USA) M6 56 01:12.0 NK
7th 12 Aguri(JPN) C4 58 01:12.1 NK
8th 7 Vento Voce(JPN) H6 58 01:12.1 NK
9th 3 Kir Lord(JPN) G8 58 01:12.4 1 3/4
10th 18 Win Marvel(JPN) C4 58 01:12.5 1/2
11th 4 Daddy's Vivid(JPN) H5 58 01:12.6 NK
12th 5 Meikei Yell(JPN) M5 56 01:12.6 NS
13th 11 Pixie Knight(JPN) H5 58 01:12.9 2
14th 9 Divination(JPN) H6 58 01:13.0 3/4
15th 14 Toshin Macau(JPN) C4 58 01:13.0 NS
16th 2 Water Navillera(JPN) F4 56 01:13.2 1
17th 10 Opal Charme(JPN) M6 56 01:13.3 NK
18th 17 Buon Voyage(JPN) M6 56 01:13.6 2
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CoronadosQuest wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:15 am What an impressive win by Derma Sotogake. He looked like he was just out there for a morning stroll. Can't wait to see him in the KY Derby!
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Looking forward to heading to Kentucky with this big baby Biscuit! Such a talented horse who can run any style to fit the situation. We will head straight from Dubai to Louisville (please warm up before I get there!)
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Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:22 am

And here’s the photo-gallery of Derma Sotogake at netkeiba.com (33 photos)

https://db.netkeiba.com/v1.1/?pid=horse ... 2020102745
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tachyon wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:17 am
CoronadosQuest wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:15 am What an impressive win by Derma Sotogake. He looked like he was just out there for a morning stroll. Can't wait to see him in the KY Derby!
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Looking forward to heading to Kentucky with this big baby Biscuit! Such a talented horse who can run any style to fit the situation. We will head straight from Dubai to Louisville (please warm up before I get there!)
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Oh I love him I wish I could follow Japanese racing more
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Sun Mar 26, 2023 12:41 pm

tachyon wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:17 am
CoronadosQuest wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:15 am What an impressive win by Derma Sotogake. He looked like he was just out there for a morning stroll. Can't wait to see him in the KY Derby!
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Looking forward to heading to Kentucky with this big baby Biscuit! Such a talented horse who can run any style to fit the situation. We will head straight from Dubai to Louisville (please warm up before I get there!)
@KeibaKate
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He has a pokey spot on his muzzle! Well, I am rooting for him. I'd love to see Japan capture the roses, even if I am a Forte fan :lol:
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Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:10 pm

He is a cute horse and seems to have slot of personality - would love to hear more about him from his groom
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Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:49 am

UAE Derby third Continuar(JPN), 2020C. Drefong(USA) x Pan de Ring(JPN) by King Kamehameha(JPN), has accepted an invitation to represent the Japan Road to the Kentucky Derby series!!!!!! :D :D :D
https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001325502/

https://twitter.com/DerbyMedia/status/1 ... 1773078528

The Drefong colt is trained by Yoshito Yahagi. 8-)
And his dam Pan de Ring(JPN) is a 1/2 sisiter (or 3/4 sister if you like it better) to the champion Almond Eye(JPN). 8-)

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Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:05 pm

Yoshito Yahagi at the Kentucky Derby already has me 10x more interested
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Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:18 pm

Northport wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:05 pm Yoshito Yahagi at the Kentucky Derby already has me 10x more interested
I think we're all piqued.
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Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:35 pm

all i know is that i'll be putting my 4 Turfy Club plushies in a circle with a candle in the middle and recite a chant to the ancient witches to have a Japanese win the KYD and teach the americans a lesson on training and breeding ;)

https://youtu.be/wj6o0PqhuIE
i like plushies. a lot.
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brunanas wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:35 pm all i know is that i'll be putting my 4 Turfy Club plushies in a circle with a candle in the middle and recite a chant to the ancient witches to have a Japanese win the KYD and teach the americans a lesson on training and breeding ;)

https://youtu.be/wj6o0PqhuIE
Can you imagine if they finished one two three!?? Oo I hope derma Sotogake wins it
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Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:19 am

What does Derma Satogake mean?
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