Indian Relay on 60 Minutes

[stark]

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/indian-re ... 4-03-31/#x

[Diver52]

It's exciting. But as a tradition it didn't exist until Europeans brought horses. Living in California where the tribes own the Legislature, I'm not a fan.

[Izvestia]

It's exciting. But as a tradition it didn't exist until Europeans brought horses. Living in California where the tribes own the Legislature, I'm not a fan.

What do you mean by that?

[Curtis]

It's exciting. But as a tradition it didn't exist until Europeans brought horses. Living in California where the tribes own the Legislature, I'm not a fan.

What do you mean by that?

The tribes had a lot to do with why Hollywood Park went away.

As for the Relay’s themselves, they’re interesting to view once or twice. Emerald Downs hosts them one weekend every meeting, normally in June. The horses used are TB’s and on occasion, an Appendix or two. So, if a horse you follow disappears, this is where they might be. Careful what you wish for with Bezos.

[Izvestia]

Ok, thanks. I wasn’t aware of this.

I know they have similar races at rodeos. It’s fairly wild!

[Diver52]

It's exciting. But as a tradition it didn't exist until Europeans brought horses. Living in California where the tribes own the Legislature, I'm not a fan.

A major reason for the problems of California racing is that they have no casino money; the tribes have a monopoly on casinos--and killed all efforts by the tracks to get in on the action. They--at least the rich casino tribes--also killed the recent sports betting initiative--although some poorer tribes supported it. It's true that those were voter-initiated measures, but that had to be the case because the Legislature would never even bring up bills the tribes would oppose. And then when it came time to vote, the tribes flooded the media with ads basically saying "If we don't have a casino monopoly, we'll live in poverty in huts with dirt floors, and sit around drinking firewater and developing TB." If I were a native American I'd have been embarrassed, but it worked.

[Flanders]

It's exciting. But as a tradition it didn't exist until Europeans brought horses. Living in California where the tribes own the Legislature, I'm not a fan.

A major reason for the problems of California racing is that they have no casino money; the tribes have a monopoly on casinos--and killed all efforts by the tracks to get in on the action. They--at least the rich casino tribes--also killed the recent sports betting initiative--although some poorer tribes supported it. It's true that those were voter-initiated measures, but that had to be the case because the Legislature would never even bring up bills the tribes would oppose. And then when it came time to vote, the tribes flooded the media with ads basically saying "If we don't have a casino monopoly, we'll live in poverty in huts with dirt floors, and sit around drinking firewater and developing TB." If I were a native American I'd have been embarrassed, but it worked.

So I have a question. How was Hollywood the only racetrack that was able to get a casino license? Was the casino there before CDI bought it? Or was that like Calder, they only bought the track to get a casino and then shut the track?

[stark]

So I have a question. How was Hollywood the only racetrack that was able to get a casino license? Was the casino there before CDI bought it? Or was that like Calder, they only bought the track to get a casino and then shut the track?

I'll guess that it has something to do with it being just a card room, NO slot machines

[Curtis]

It's exciting. But as a tradition it didn't exist until Europeans brought horses. Living in California where the tribes own the Legislature, I'm not a fan.

A major reason for the problems of California racing is that they have no casino money; the tribes have a monopoly on casinos--and killed all efforts by the tracks to get in on the action. They--at least the rich casino tribes--also killed the recent sports betting initiative--although some poorer tribes supported it. It's true that those were voter-initiated measures, but that had to be the case because the Legislature would never even bring up bills the tribes would oppose. And then when it came time to vote, the tribes flooded the media with ads basically saying "If we don't have a casino monopoly, we'll live in poverty in huts with dirt floors, and sit around drinking firewater and developing TB." If I were a native American I'd have been embarrassed, but it worked.

So I have a question. How was Hollywood the only racetrack that was able to get a casino license? Was the casino there before CDI bought it? Or was that like Calder, they only bought the track to get a casino and then shut the track?

When Marj Everett went whole hog to get the first Breeder’s Cup, she decided to enlarge the main track from 8f to 9f. Thus the finish line was moved a 1/16th of a mile. She had a glassed in theater style edifice dubbed the “Pavillon of the Stars” built. This was later named for Cary Grant. As sterile as that building could be, I grew to love it. I saw the 1987 BC from it, sitting right on the finish line as Ferdinand and Alysheba almost dead heated. The ticket prices, by the way, were the same as if it were a Wednesday. Fast forward a bit and after a proxy battle Dee Hubbard gets control and he had no interest whatsoever in maintaining the Pavillon as it was draining money. So he decided to turn it into a casino and to move the finish line back from whence it resided. That is why for the last several years of Hollywood Park’s existence, there were no 8f races on dirt—or synthetic. Instead, races were run at the classic American distance of 7.5f. Eventually, Hubbard oversaw the sale of Hollywood Park to the Evil Empire with the Casino in place. Before they sold the track for slaughter, CDI tried to get legislation passed to allow slots at racetracks. The Native American Tribes successfully created the necessary propaganda to get the proposal defeated.

[Flanders]

Thank you both. I knew I would get a better explanation from you than trying to search for the answer. I didn't know it was just a card room.

[Starine]

Making Claims: Indian Relays And A Tale Of Two 60 Minutes Features
https://paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-pa ... s-features

[Diver52]

When I was a kid we would occasionally drive up to the Indian reservation, which was right by the state mental hospital. The reservation looked pretty grim, mostly Quonset huts. Now the hills are full of McMansions and the tribes can afford to give so much both locally and to the Legislature. . it's hard to get current info but when i was working and it was relevant, a local tribe handed out about $10,000 per member, per month. Plus education. I was also involved with a court case where a tribe was trying to remove about 10% of their members because "Pechanga Mary" could not be proved to be sufficiently Indigenous, despite her name. The result of the lawsuit, which I handled and wrote. was that tribes have the absolute right to determine membership, and fairness and due process don't apply.